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<blockquote data-quote="Beholder Bob" data-source="post: 1215451" data-attributes="member: 12866"><p>Uh - Damn!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /></p><p>The stars in my game are points of focus, the paths of energy. The moons are diffractions of the stellar lens and gate openings into limb/purgatory - the sorting warehouse for incoming souls. I'd love to see your spreadsheet - how many planets do you track? Do you track the 'zodiac band' of stars, or a home made zodiac? Do you have a prestige class (or core class) centered on astrology/astronomy? If not, I know of 1 core class & 2 prestige classes.</p><p></p><p>ciaran00: perpetual work keeps jack from being a dull boyyy!</p><p>I figure a whole world will take more then a life time to develop, so their will always be room for more. Then again, I can always apocalypse it and switch to a core world if I suffer more then 2 brain embolisms. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>SylverFlame: cool, thank you very much!!</p><p>Ha - careful what you ask for - didn't you read the sign, don't feed the ego! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>Below, the rough draft for metaphysics - if you see a flaw, shove it my face please <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>THE NATURE OF MORTALS</p><p></p><p>Spirit: That which interacts w celestial rays and has a spiritual presence. A husk of soul. A ‘protective coating around the soul, the scar material the soul develops through hardship. Prevents others from harming the mind or soul – the personality and emotions reside here.</p><p>Mind: Intellect and logic. The sum total of all experiences in this life – the ability to access parts of the soul, interaction. Travels with soul, although it leaves an imperfect imprint on the spirit.</p><p>Body: Mass, the flesh and bones – that which houses the mind, soul, & spirit.</p><p>Soul: The true essence of a person, that which is divine. The core of you, that which is reborn - it is this aspect that manipulates magic, earns favor or penalty for the afterlife.</p><p></p><p>A person with no spirit is open for spiritual contamination, influence, possession, and control from others. Without the spirit, the mind and soul have a difficult time maintaining a sense of self – which is why it is so easy to sway someone without their spirit. Very susceptible to necromancy magic</p><p>A person with no mind is a vegetable or a beast of their own id. Disassociative conditions and those who can only respond to and with emotion (incapable of applying logic) – are the best definitions of this condition.</p><p>A person w/out body is creature of the afterlife or a projection due to magic.</p><p>A person w/out soul is incapable of rebirth. They still interacting with the world but are no longer bound by birth and punishment. A strong persona, they tend to become wild and dangerous – no longer bound by the rules that limit severe behavior. Their soul, however distant, is held responsible for all acts taken by the body, mind, and spirit – so while this individual is not bound by their actions, their soul pays the price.</p><p>Body and soul only is a vegetable. They are beyond aid, the soul is lashed to the body, but no personality is present, no mind to reach. Prime candidate for possession – very hard to cast out once possession takes place.</p><p>Body and spirit only is a purely emotional automaton, capable of imitation of a person, but now a creature reacting to ‘programmed’ emotional stimuli only. Example would be a mothers body and spirit – able to tend her children, but unable to adapt to their changes in personality, body, and need. Will always treat them the same way. A personality ‘snapshot’ in time. Unable to adapt.</p><p>Body and mind only is a sociopath – No personality (although it can imitate it), just an extension of the mind and its plans and opinions. Capable of continuing long term goals at the cost of all they held dear without a second thought – only bounded by logic.</p><p>Spirit and mind only is a projection of the person – created by magic as a projection of self, or an echo of a person who has passed into an afterlife but left a traumatized imprint of themselves. They haunt places and people.</p><p>Soul and mind only is an entity almost ready for rebirth – but unable or unwilling to surrender their past lives. Usually the result of a dire need to complete a goal unfinished while alive. The Soul, without the Spirit, is weak – and the mind without spirit is usually at a loss of personality – this entity would be fragmented and confused.</p><p>Spirit and soul only is a creature of the afterlife, but damaged. Without the mind, the entity is hampered in its final existence, struggling to do more then mimic its former life. Usually due to death magic or very violent murder. These entities are unable or barely able to remember specific facts from their lives, and almost never remember the cause of death.</p><p>Objects can have spirit w/out a soul – a haunting. Actions of your spirit or body weigh against the soul. Animating my body awakens (partially or fully) the spirit – there are no undead without some of their personality present (no mindless willing creatures) – although the magic involved and the nature of their existence twists even the most saintly personas.</p><p>Ok – why isn’t heaven overpopulated? Limited # of total souls, no birth in heaven (birth in hell – but it leads to a soul suffering even though innocent). Both you can die of old age. Die in heaven, reborn into mortal lands, die in hell, reborn in hell – or mortal realm if you’ve paid off your debt. Both w/errors, mistakes, bribery, and personal placements.</p><p>Souls who do not make it to heaven or hell in 7 days become ghosts & spirits, hauntings. Undead animated by a wizard use shadow-land spirits, but undead w coherent minds from life are dragged from afterlife to inhabit the body- earning a spiritual debt, even if innocent. The animation of your body w/out your soul involved still incurs debt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beholder Bob, post: 1215451, member: 12866"] Uh - Damn!! :eek: The stars in my game are points of focus, the paths of energy. The moons are diffractions of the stellar lens and gate openings into limb/purgatory - the sorting warehouse for incoming souls. I'd love to see your spreadsheet - how many planets do you track? Do you track the 'zodiac band' of stars, or a home made zodiac? Do you have a prestige class (or core class) centered on astrology/astronomy? If not, I know of 1 core class & 2 prestige classes. ciaran00: perpetual work keeps jack from being a dull boyyy! I figure a whole world will take more then a life time to develop, so their will always be room for more. Then again, I can always apocalypse it and switch to a core world if I suffer more then 2 brain embolisms. :p SylverFlame: cool, thank you very much!! Ha - careful what you ask for - didn't you read the sign, don't feed the ego! :D Below, the rough draft for metaphysics - if you see a flaw, shove it my face please :) THE NATURE OF MORTALS Spirit: That which interacts w celestial rays and has a spiritual presence. A husk of soul. A ‘protective coating around the soul, the scar material the soul develops through hardship. Prevents others from harming the mind or soul – the personality and emotions reside here. Mind: Intellect and logic. The sum total of all experiences in this life – the ability to access parts of the soul, interaction. Travels with soul, although it leaves an imperfect imprint on the spirit. Body: Mass, the flesh and bones – that which houses the mind, soul, & spirit. Soul: The true essence of a person, that which is divine. The core of you, that which is reborn - it is this aspect that manipulates magic, earns favor or penalty for the afterlife. A person with no spirit is open for spiritual contamination, influence, possession, and control from others. Without the spirit, the mind and soul have a difficult time maintaining a sense of self – which is why it is so easy to sway someone without their spirit. Very susceptible to necromancy magic A person with no mind is a vegetable or a beast of their own id. Disassociative conditions and those who can only respond to and with emotion (incapable of applying logic) – are the best definitions of this condition. A person w/out body is creature of the afterlife or a projection due to magic. A person w/out soul is incapable of rebirth. They still interacting with the world but are no longer bound by birth and punishment. A strong persona, they tend to become wild and dangerous – no longer bound by the rules that limit severe behavior. Their soul, however distant, is held responsible for all acts taken by the body, mind, and spirit – so while this individual is not bound by their actions, their soul pays the price. Body and soul only is a vegetable. They are beyond aid, the soul is lashed to the body, but no personality is present, no mind to reach. Prime candidate for possession – very hard to cast out once possession takes place. Body and spirit only is a purely emotional automaton, capable of imitation of a person, but now a creature reacting to ‘programmed’ emotional stimuli only. Example would be a mothers body and spirit – able to tend her children, but unable to adapt to their changes in personality, body, and need. Will always treat them the same way. A personality ‘snapshot’ in time. Unable to adapt. Body and mind only is a sociopath – No personality (although it can imitate it), just an extension of the mind and its plans and opinions. Capable of continuing long term goals at the cost of all they held dear without a second thought – only bounded by logic. Spirit and mind only is a projection of the person – created by magic as a projection of self, or an echo of a person who has passed into an afterlife but left a traumatized imprint of themselves. They haunt places and people. Soul and mind only is an entity almost ready for rebirth – but unable or unwilling to surrender their past lives. Usually the result of a dire need to complete a goal unfinished while alive. The Soul, without the Spirit, is weak – and the mind without spirit is usually at a loss of personality – this entity would be fragmented and confused. Spirit and soul only is a creature of the afterlife, but damaged. Without the mind, the entity is hampered in its final existence, struggling to do more then mimic its former life. Usually due to death magic or very violent murder. These entities are unable or barely able to remember specific facts from their lives, and almost never remember the cause of death. Objects can have spirit w/out a soul – a haunting. Actions of your spirit or body weigh against the soul. Animating my body awakens (partially or fully) the spirit – there are no undead without some of their personality present (no mindless willing creatures) – although the magic involved and the nature of their existence twists even the most saintly personas. Ok – why isn’t heaven overpopulated? Limited # of total souls, no birth in heaven (birth in hell – but it leads to a soul suffering even though innocent). Both you can die of old age. Die in heaven, reborn into mortal lands, die in hell, reborn in hell – or mortal realm if you’ve paid off your debt. Both w/errors, mistakes, bribery, and personal placements. Souls who do not make it to heaven or hell in 7 days become ghosts & spirits, hauntings. Undead animated by a wizard use shadow-land spirits, but undead w coherent minds from life are dragged from afterlife to inhabit the body- earning a spiritual debt, even if innocent. The animation of your body w/out your soul involved still incurs debt. [/QUOTE]
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