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<blockquote data-quote="QuentinGeorge" data-source="post: 7901905" data-attributes="member: 20990"><p>Ravenloft has always been fairly "iffy" on how suitable are the races beyond humans, elves, halfelves, gnomes and halflings, most likely due to its 2nd edition origins. Notably the 3rd edition setting re-fluffed halforcs as "calibans", mutant humans caused by misuse of magic. You might even extend that to dragonborn - have them even more extreme forms of "calibans".</p><p></p><p>Now I know someone is going to try and correct me and say Ravenloft dates to 1st edition - and the original module does. But that is not the campaign setting. And that's the crucial thing. Curse of Strahd is a reboot of the original module, it is NOT the 2nd/3rd edition setting. It departs radically in continuity and tone in several important places. It doesn't even have the proper mechanics that the setting is known for. (Fear/Horror/Madness checks, Power Checks, Altered Magic, No contact with gods). Barovia in Curse of Strahd is not the Barovia from the Ravenloft setting without some radical retooling.</p><p></p><p>Those thinking that a 5th edition version of Dark Sun will ban any races are barking up the wrong tree. If they didn't take that approach with Ravenloft, or Greyhawk....why would they do it with Dark Sun?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="QuentinGeorge, post: 7901905, member: 20990"] Ravenloft has always been fairly "iffy" on how suitable are the races beyond humans, elves, halfelves, gnomes and halflings, most likely due to its 2nd edition origins. Notably the 3rd edition setting re-fluffed halforcs as "calibans", mutant humans caused by misuse of magic. You might even extend that to dragonborn - have them even more extreme forms of "calibans". Now I know someone is going to try and correct me and say Ravenloft dates to 1st edition - and the original module does. But that is not the campaign setting. And that's the crucial thing. Curse of Strahd is a reboot of the original module, it is NOT the 2nd/3rd edition setting. It departs radically in continuity and tone in several important places. It doesn't even have the proper mechanics that the setting is known for. (Fear/Horror/Madness checks, Power Checks, Altered Magic, No contact with gods). Barovia in Curse of Strahd is not the Barovia from the Ravenloft setting without some radical retooling. Those thinking that a 5th edition version of Dark Sun will ban any races are barking up the wrong tree. If they didn't take that approach with Ravenloft, or Greyhawk....why would they do it with Dark Sun? [/QUOTE]
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