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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7903933" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>Which was when WotC, in an egregious and unforgivable blunder, introduced them as a standard PC race.</p><p></p><p>Ditto for Tieflings. Ditto for Drow.</p><p></p><p>Both are first and foremost monsters, and for one to become a PC should be an individual DM's choice as a glaring and rare exception to the norm. And I say this as a DM who has had - among other things - Drow, Gnoll, Dryad, Centaur and Leprechaun PCs in his games: they were all glaring exceptions to the norm, generated either by sheer luck via extreme rolls on race tables or by good/bad luck when Reincarnated.</p><p></p><p>Never would I allow a player to outright choose any of these. The chooseable races at roll-up in my games are in fact extremely limited, based on what lives around where your PC will be joining the party; for anything else you have to roll on the racial abundance table for that region until you get two options, and then pick from those.</p><p></p><p>For one thing, since day 1 the intent has been that the game be at least vaguely human-centric. As time's gone on that has "centrism" expanded to include at least Elves and Dwarves; but the farther you stray from that the closer you get to - as someone very aptly put it upthread - the Star Wars Cantina party.</p><p></p><p>That, and IME any time someone has come to me wanting to play an oddball race it's been because they're either trying to jump the power curve or are operating (intentionally or otherwise) in ignorance of how the rest of the party is likely to react, or both.</p><p></p><p>I once had a player lobby me for ages back in the Twilight era wanting to bring a PC Vampire into a party. I shut this down for two reasons: one, a Vampire would have been grossly overpowered for that party (and to chop it down enough to suit would have in effect made it no longer a Vampire); and two, that the existing party would have 99% likely tried to kill it on sight* - and I wouldn't blame them for a second.</p><p></p><p>* - or hire someone else to kill it; fighting a Vampire themselves might have been somewhat above their pay grade at the time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7903933, member: 29398"] Which was when WotC, in an egregious and unforgivable blunder, introduced them as a standard PC race. Ditto for Tieflings. Ditto for Drow. Both are first and foremost monsters, and for one to become a PC should be an individual DM's choice as a glaring and rare exception to the norm. And I say this as a DM who has had - among other things - Drow, Gnoll, Dryad, Centaur and Leprechaun PCs in his games: they were all glaring exceptions to the norm, generated either by sheer luck via extreme rolls on race tables or by good/bad luck when Reincarnated. Never would I allow a player to outright choose any of these. The chooseable races at roll-up in my games are in fact extremely limited, based on what lives around where your PC will be joining the party; for anything else you have to roll on the racial abundance table for that region until you get two options, and then pick from those. For one thing, since day 1 the intent has been that the game be at least vaguely human-centric. As time's gone on that has "centrism" expanded to include at least Elves and Dwarves; but the farther you stray from that the closer you get to - as someone very aptly put it upthread - the Star Wars Cantina party. That, and IME any time someone has come to me wanting to play an oddball race it's been because they're either trying to jump the power curve or are operating (intentionally or otherwise) in ignorance of how the rest of the party is likely to react, or both. I once had a player lobby me for ages back in the Twilight era wanting to bring a PC Vampire into a party. I shut this down for two reasons: one, a Vampire would have been grossly overpowered for that party (and to chop it down enough to suit would have in effect made it no longer a Vampire); and two, that the existing party would have 99% likely tried to kill it on sight* - and I wouldn't blame them for a second. * - or hire someone else to kill it; fighting a Vampire themselves might have been somewhat above their pay grade at the time. [/QUOTE]
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