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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rgard" data-source="post: 3250867" data-attributes="member: 4157">I agree with sometimes wanting more specificity.Anyway, I looked up the entry for the Warmage class options in the PHB2 (pg 67) and found an ability called 'Eclectic Learning.'  The warmage can use this at 3, 6, 11 or 16th levels or all of them instead of advanced learning.  Advanced Learning is where the warmage can add any evocation (wizard spell) that is not on the warmage list to his list of spells known.With Eclectic Learning, the warmage can add any arcane (wiz/sorc) spell to his known spells, but from any school (could be necro, ench, etc) AND it has to be ONE level higher than normal.  Invisibility would be a 3rd level spell for the warmage.You could do the same thing for the Duskblade.  I would give you the choice of giving up Quick Cast and take Eclectic Learning instead for that given level (5, 10, 15 and or 20).  The best you could get then would be a 4th level wiz/sorc spell which would be one of your 5th level spells (4+1=5).How does that work for you?Thanks,Rich</blockquote>