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Message: <blockquote data-quote="underfoot007ct" data-source="post: 6002233" data-attributes="member: 93883">The term gamist is going to have varied mean to different people using it. Consider that a metaphor, for just because a concept is from 4e, doesn't make it bad. Maybe that is not what you are saying, but sadly many people think that way. Fine.Don't ban books in my library (another metaphor), if you don't like a monster type don't use it. Don't ban my monsters from the MM, then expect me to bow down and be happy. Don't take away what I want. I am not telling anyone they MUST use any monster, so respect what I want, like  I respect what you want.No. Does designing a creature solely to be balanced as a solo encounter and then calling it a goblin chief change the way we play? Yes.</blockquote>Totally disagree. The way we design a monster in a GAME, doesn't matter If we finish with the exact same monster. That is semantics. That is just being stubborn.[/QUOTE]