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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 6002273" data-attributes="member: 17106">That 3e has succeeded in spite of CR/EL, wealth assumptions by level, standard party size and composition, and the associated encounter design, not because of these things. It works because it's a good enough system that you can violate all those assumptions and still get the play experience you want. A lot of 3e's problem's trace to the CR and XP system. I suspect the people that actually use those kinds of assumptions are largely the ones that dislike the system, which is why some of them now like a system that is built even more around assuming how you play. I also suspect the people who went old school saw the metagame aspect of design creeping into new areas of the rules, and I credit them for their foresight in that regard.Not because they're balanced for a standard party, I'm guessing. Then again, that's a small subset of the (already small) rpg market.Guidelines? Sure. My 3.5 MM has lots of guidelines. Metagame rules? Not so fast.</blockquote>