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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6002485" data-attributes="member: 87792">You were stating that the wizard should be able to cast all spells a goblin shaman could.&nbsp; As far as I know ony 3.X had this level of magical cross-cover.&nbsp;As a pretty experienced 4e DM, my reaction to that statement is &quot;WTF?&quot;&nbsp; That is incredibly shoddy monster design independent of everything else.&nbsp; You shouldn't be throwing around that sort of action denial at level 1 even on a solo, and I can't off the top of my head think of any monsters in the bottom half of heroic tier that have an at will daze, and for a very good reason.&nbsp; And the combination of daze and shift is simply unpleasant as you can get to the one square gap distance very easily and have almost complete action denial for a melee fighter.&nbsp; Bad, bad design at all levels.&nbsp;&nbsp;And if you go by the 4e monster manuals and not the distinctly poor early 4e adventures, this pattern is followed - and it's not one I think should be broken.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6002485, member: 87792"] You were stating that the wizard should be able to cast all spells a goblin shaman could. As far as I know ony 3.X had this level of magical cross-cover. As a pretty experienced 4e DM, my reaction to that statement is "WTF?" That is [I]incredibly[/I] shoddy monster design independent of everything else. You shouldn't be throwing around that sort of action denial at level 1 even on a solo, and I can't off the top of my head think of any monsters in the bottom half of heroic tier that have an at will daze, and for a very good reason. And the combination of daze and shift is simply unpleasant as you can get to the one square gap distance very easily and have almost complete action denial for a melee fighter. Bad, bad design at all levels. And if you go by the 4e monster manuals and not the distinctly poor early 4e adventures, this pattern is followed - and it's not one I think should be broken. [/QUOTE]

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