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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chris_Nightwing" data-source="post: 6003305" data-attributes="member: 882">I really liked your example, but have a couple of comments. Making its attack bonus suddenly +11 is, in my opinion, disconcerting, although it depends how you're doing it. Don't forget that many other checks might come up involving its base attack bonus and/or its strength, so you really ought to adjust one of those components. For your example I might have just reduced its HD a little so that it isn't so good at attacking, and if it doesn't have enough HP, give it some more Con.3E obviously had some mathematical issues, and I see no reason why you couldn't build a creature as quickly as you can in 4E, but with the underlying math being fully explained as in 3E. In the recent WotC columns we've seen some discussion of this - they want Hobgoblins to have a better attack bonus, so they explain it as being militarily trained. I'd like the numbers to have an explanation, wherever possible.</blockquote>