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<blockquote data-quote="Chris_Nightwing" data-source="post: 6004209" data-attributes="member: 882">See, there is a difference, and it comes down to whether or not you plan to use this sort of class again. For many NPCs, the existing 3E NPC classes weren't suitable, so in fact I did create an even more pathetic in combat class for my games.I mean frankly, the real question is whether or not these NPCs will even take part in combat. If they are plot devices, leave them as that. If they might get into combat (you have to escort the sage somewhere) then flesh them out. All this talk about how difficult it is to create a master blacksmith NPC without giving them combat abilities is stupid if you never even intend to test their blacksmithing skill or combat prowess.What I object to is creatures and NPCs that definitely will be in combat *should* follow the rules. But as I have said many times, and had greeted by derision several times, is that I am a physics-focused, process-based DM and player. I want the world to have rules that both parties follow, and I enjoy observing the interactions therein.Edit: I will add one thing though.. If your master blacksmith has an incredible smithing skill, I think it's reasonable that the PCs have some expectation of his level, in the UNLIKELY EVENT that they want to murder him. Again, that's open world physics, rather than the gamist, CRPG style of shopkeepers you can't kill.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chris_Nightwing, post: 6004209, member: 882"] See, there is a difference, and it comes down to whether or not you plan to use this sort of class again. For many NPCs, the existing 3E NPC classes weren't suitable, so in fact I did create an even more pathetic in combat class for my games. I mean frankly, the real question is whether or not these NPCs will even take part in combat. If they are plot devices, leave them as that. If they might get into combat (you have to escort the sage somewhere) then flesh them out. All this talk about how difficult it is to create a master blacksmith NPC without giving them combat abilities is stupid if you never even intend to test their blacksmithing skill or combat prowess. What I object to is creatures and NPCs that definitely will be in combat *should* follow the rules. But as I have said many times, and had greeted by derision several times, is that I am a physics-focused, process-based DM and player. I want the world to have rules that both parties follow, and I enjoy observing the interactions therein. Edit: I will add one thing though.. If your master blacksmith has an incredible smithing skill, I think it's reasonable that the PCs have some expectation of his level, in the UNLIKELY EVENT that they want to murder him. Again, that's open world physics, rather than the gamist, CRPG style of shopkeepers you can't kill. [/QUOTE]

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