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<blockquote data-quote="Tsyr" data-source="post: 512679" data-attributes="member: 354"><p>It depends on a few things.</p><p></p><p>First, how much does this hurt the player (not the character)? Some people really don't like you doing cruel things to their "family" like that. Others don't mind. What may be too cruel for one person may be fine for another. In this case, it sounds like you have players that do mind it.</p><p></p><p>This is sorta wrapped up in the whole "It's too cruel if your players fun factor is lowered because of it".</p><p></p><p>Second, how routine is this? I had a WW ST I won't play under because of this. Before I stopped playing with him alltogether, I stopped making a background for my character... My sister would be raped, my family tortured, their tounges mailed to me in a jar, my little brother brainwashed and made into a tool of revenge against me, etc. And I stopped spending background points too... That Resource ***** I spent so many points on? Gone (for keeps) in the first 30 minutes of a game session. That Node ***? Gone by the end of the second session. Kinfolk **? All murdered, by the end of the first session. And to top it all off, our characters would generaly wind up: Wanted by every law agency in the world, by every crime syndicate in the world, and by every supernatural group in the world, including our own, all at the same time.</p><p></p><p>That was not fun. I left, thankfully... I hear most of the other players did too... Last I heard, he was STing one-on-one sessions with his brother.</p><p></p><p>Mind you, you don't have to be near this cruel. But if it gets to the point that the players start to feel that the only reason for background is so that you can screw with it as plot hooks, you have gone way too far.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tsyr, post: 512679, member: 354"] It depends on a few things. First, how much does this hurt the player (not the character)? Some people really don't like you doing cruel things to their "family" like that. Others don't mind. What may be too cruel for one person may be fine for another. In this case, it sounds like you have players that do mind it. This is sorta wrapped up in the whole "It's too cruel if your players fun factor is lowered because of it". Second, how routine is this? I had a WW ST I won't play under because of this. Before I stopped playing with him alltogether, I stopped making a background for my character... My sister would be raped, my family tortured, their tounges mailed to me in a jar, my little brother brainwashed and made into a tool of revenge against me, etc. And I stopped spending background points too... That Resource ***** I spent so many points on? Gone (for keeps) in the first 30 minutes of a game session. That Node ***? Gone by the end of the second session. Kinfolk **? All murdered, by the end of the first session. And to top it all off, our characters would generaly wind up: Wanted by every law agency in the world, by every crime syndicate in the world, and by every supernatural group in the world, including our own, all at the same time. That was not fun. I left, thankfully... I hear most of the other players did too... Last I heard, he was STing one-on-one sessions with his brother. Mind you, you don't have to be near this cruel. But if it gets to the point that the players start to feel that the only reason for background is so that you can screw with it as plot hooks, you have gone way too far. [/QUOTE]
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