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<blockquote data-quote="Ravellion" data-source="post: 514136" data-attributes="member: 538"><p>I had several characters in the duration of two campaigns with one DM, and this is what happened.</p><p></p><p>Character 1: I created him, with background of a master who taught him the spells, his favourite temple to worship azuth etc.</p><p></p><p>He zapped me to another plane without acces to my spellbook, and without the possibility of getting a new one (in 2e spellbooks were really expensive) or going back to my home plane as a 4th level bard with the loremaster kit. My lore was also unavailable as this was another plane, and hence, my old lore was useless. Without my old master, I couldn't level up easily because he required training.</p><p></p><p>He apologised when I explained my POV to him, and he agreed that this was very harsh, and he didn't really know how important my lore ability was, and he didn't think spellbooks would be that expensive. So I made a different character.</p><p></p><p>2nd Character: Shorter background, but heavy ties with an organisation and a city he grew up in and spent all his life in.</p><p></p><p>Within 2 minutes (!) of playing I was kicked out of the organisation and forced to leave my beloved city. No ties with my organisation meant no leveling up whatsoever since they were the only ones that taught the skills. (some sneaky elf kit)</p><p></p><p>3rd edition arrived, new campaign.</p><p></p><p>My cleric lost all ties with my background (all my friends and tutors were dead within one session) except the nemesis I wrote into my background (my dad). He then took away all my money and equipment, and when I went searching for other temples of Heironeous, they were taken over by a rather vicious sect of olidammara worshippers. When my character died* I was happy.</p><p></p><p>*Forge of Fury Bridge : "Does it seem difficult?"</p><p>"(Dm checks in his module) No, not that difficult"</p><p>"I'll try and get to the other side"</p><p>"roll balance"</p><p>"16! Great! With armour check penalty that's 7."</p><p>"ohoh. Make a climb check"</p><p>"1"</p><p>(vivid description of my PC falling down a long long way)</p><p>"is my character dead?"</p><p>"er... yes."</p><p>(Me smiling and ripping up my character sheet, grabbing 4d6 happily)</p><p></p><p>Last character with that DM: Monk. At least no equipment to be stripped away.</p><p></p><p>He friggin aged me, taking away the good physical stats I rolled (the previous character had crap stats), by entering me in a magical sleep for 15 years. Of course, my character wanted to know if my temple was still standing, even if I already knew what happened to it. When the DM noticed that I wasn't surprised it wasn't there anymore, he wanted to know if I had read his notes while he went to the loo... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /></p><p></p><p>So, KM, the lesson here is not not be cruel, but not be universally and predictably cruel... players will get jaded as I did, or sad, sicne they never have the chance to build anything up, or angry preferring to take others' stuff with them when they know they will lose their stuff anyway.</p><p></p><p>Rav</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ravellion, post: 514136, member: 538"] I had several characters in the duration of two campaigns with one DM, and this is what happened. Character 1: I created him, with background of a master who taught him the spells, his favourite temple to worship azuth etc. He zapped me to another plane without acces to my spellbook, and without the possibility of getting a new one (in 2e spellbooks were really expensive) or going back to my home plane as a 4th level bard with the loremaster kit. My lore was also unavailable as this was another plane, and hence, my old lore was useless. Without my old master, I couldn't level up easily because he required training. He apologised when I explained my POV to him, and he agreed that this was very harsh, and he didn't really know how important my lore ability was, and he didn't think spellbooks would be that expensive. So I made a different character. 2nd Character: Shorter background, but heavy ties with an organisation and a city he grew up in and spent all his life in. Within 2 minutes (!) of playing I was kicked out of the organisation and forced to leave my beloved city. No ties with my organisation meant no leveling up whatsoever since they were the only ones that taught the skills. (some sneaky elf kit) 3rd edition arrived, new campaign. My cleric lost all ties with my background (all my friends and tutors were dead within one session) except the nemesis I wrote into my background (my dad). He then took away all my money and equipment, and when I went searching for other temples of Heironeous, they were taken over by a rather vicious sect of olidammara worshippers. When my character died* I was happy. *Forge of Fury Bridge : "Does it seem difficult?" "(Dm checks in his module) No, not that difficult" "I'll try and get to the other side" "roll balance" "16! Great! With armour check penalty that's 7." "ohoh. Make a climb check" "1" (vivid description of my PC falling down a long long way) "is my character dead?" "er... yes." (Me smiling and ripping up my character sheet, grabbing 4d6 happily) Last character with that DM: Monk. At least no equipment to be stripped away. He friggin aged me, taking away the good physical stats I rolled (the previous character had crap stats), by entering me in a magical sleep for 15 years. Of course, my character wanted to know if my temple was still standing, even if I already knew what happened to it. When the DM noticed that I wasn't surprised it wasn't there anymore, he wanted to know if I had read his notes while he went to the loo... :eek: So, KM, the lesson here is not not be cruel, but not be universally and predictably cruel... players will get jaded as I did, or sad, sicne they never have the chance to build anything up, or angry preferring to take others' stuff with them when they know they will lose their stuff anyway. Rav [/QUOTE]
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