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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 8544281" data-attributes="member: 6879661">I’d say the folks you claim were scammed by a book are more defensive than I am. The cost of our hobby used to justify people’s arguments in favour of not changing rules continues  to be a poor one… it gets my goat and implies that people won’t pay good money for rpg products.The books tweaked the game for those that wanted it tweaked. Either you like the changes in which case it was an improvement, or you didn’t in which case don’t use the 3.5 phb.The fact that you said you played with pathfinder core books demonstrates my point that buying extra books are optional. You don’t need them. Sure the rules within update the game, that’s just progress. 3.5 rules were optional. You could play with a 3e bard or a 3.5 bard in the party alongside PCs of the opposite PHB.Can you point to any changes that actually caused a problem in real play between 3e and 3.5e?</blockquote>