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<blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5526592" data-attributes="member: 78116"><p>Heroes of the Fallen Lands added more powers for wizards/clerics.</p><p></p><p>Heroes of Shadow added more powers for wizards/clerics.</p><p></p><p>Heroes of Feywild will, more than likely given the direction currently, add more powers for wizards/clerics (because that's what their books seem to do now).</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure you even realize how absurd your argument is based on what the stuff being published is actually <em>doing</em>. </p><p>I think the Skirmishing Warlord and Brawler Fighter were two of the best things added to 4E. Both of them were added in a splat book. I also really enjoyed Psionic Power, not only for the great new powers in it but also all the supporting material they added. The book single handedly changed my opinion about psionics.</p><p></p><p>Thus far I don't feel HoS has added anything significant to 4E whatsoever - certainly it isn't any different to a splatbook IMO. It easily feels like a shadow themed combined arcane and divine power with a couple of very confused classes in it.</p><p>HoS is a splat book. It gives a bunch of powers to Wizards and Clerics, then two very linear and largely optionless classes. There are actually more powers JUST for Wizards and Clerics in the book than new classes. Did you realize that? </p><p>Unless those books have been 100% consistent in providing new builds for classes released before their own release. For example an Arcane Power 2 would certainly give the artificer more powers and a new build. A divine power 2 would certainly give the runepriest some new powers and a new build. That's what those books did and what they were for.</p><p></p><p>I would not anticipate this book to have a lot of PC options either (I think the blurb mentioned something about rituals). If it does, I wouldn't be surprised if it is filled with yet more wizard options. At the same time it is being written by Robert J. Schwalb it has a chance - but I don't know how much of a chance that is with the current "direction".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aegeri, post: 5526592, member: 78116"] Heroes of the Fallen Lands added more powers for wizards/clerics. Heroes of Shadow added more powers for wizards/clerics. Heroes of Feywild will, more than likely given the direction currently, add more powers for wizards/clerics (because that's what their books seem to do now). I'm not sure you even realize how absurd your argument is based on what the stuff being published is actually [i]doing[/i]. I think the Skirmishing Warlord and Brawler Fighter were two of the best things added to 4E. Both of them were added in a splat book. I also really enjoyed Psionic Power, not only for the great new powers in it but also all the supporting material they added. The book single handedly changed my opinion about psionics. Thus far I don't feel HoS has added anything significant to 4E whatsoever - certainly it isn't any different to a splatbook IMO. It easily feels like a shadow themed combined arcane and divine power with a couple of very confused classes in it. HoS is a splat book. It gives a bunch of powers to Wizards and Clerics, then two very linear and largely optionless classes. There are actually more powers JUST for Wizards and Clerics in the book than new classes. Did you realize that? Unless those books have been 100% consistent in providing new builds for classes released before their own release. For example an Arcane Power 2 would certainly give the artificer more powers and a new build. A divine power 2 would certainly give the runepriest some new powers and a new build. That's what those books did and what they were for. I would not anticipate this book to have a lot of PC options either (I think the blurb mentioned something about rituals). If it does, I wouldn't be surprised if it is filled with yet more wizard options. At the same time it is being written by Robert J. Schwalb it has a chance - but I don't know how much of a chance that is with the current "direction". [/QUOTE]
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