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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5526628" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>So you're not actually a fan of <strong>playing</strong> any of them, you just like the fact that there's a shake-up in character types?</p><p></p><p>And the druid, hunter, invoker, psion, seeker, battlemind, cavalier, paladin, swordmage, warden, ardent, artificer, bard, runepriest, sentinel, shaman, warlord, assassin, avenger, barbarian, hexblade, monk, ranger, scout, sorcerer, and warlock aren't variety enough apart from the classic foursome to <em>excite</em> you as a DM?</p><p></p><p>I mean, that's 26 classes, with 30 levels each. Assuming those 3 games have 5 people each, you could have someone having a different class in each of your games and STILL not have ANY fighters, wizards, clerics, or rogues. Heck, you could ban those four classes from your game, and you'd be fine. And that's not including multiclass or hybrid craziness.</p><p></p><p>And, I dunno, if you're getting bored with the classic tropes of the genre, maybe it's time to hang up at least one of the D&D games for a little while, or try some <em>Call of Cthulu</em> or something Sci-Fi, or <em>Dread</em>, or whatever. Or maybe go for a change of pace and get one of your players to run a game including YOU as a player, so you could try out your own wacky character ideas?</p><p></p><p>You still seem to me, to be freaking out about something that doesn't require any sort of freak out. It's not like you don't have plenty of character options for your games, even given your higher-than-normal level of players and your lower-than-normal patience for the well-worn tropes. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>*shrug*. I was kind of fond of the 3e BoVD, and it saw some use in my games (the enemies were nice, and the spells culled from the d20 Call of Cthulu were what gave me the idea to run a Cthulu/FR crossover that ranks as some of the most fun I've had with D&D, ever). If it's at least that good, it'll be pretty good to me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>And if it's not, ah well. At least it's not just another bundle of dead trees.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5526628, member: 2067"] So you're not actually a fan of [B]playing[/B] any of them, you just like the fact that there's a shake-up in character types? And the druid, hunter, invoker, psion, seeker, battlemind, cavalier, paladin, swordmage, warden, ardent, artificer, bard, runepriest, sentinel, shaman, warlord, assassin, avenger, barbarian, hexblade, monk, ranger, scout, sorcerer, and warlock aren't variety enough apart from the classic foursome to [I]excite[/I] you as a DM? I mean, that's 26 classes, with 30 levels each. Assuming those 3 games have 5 people each, you could have someone having a different class in each of your games and STILL not have ANY fighters, wizards, clerics, or rogues. Heck, you could ban those four classes from your game, and you'd be fine. And that's not including multiclass or hybrid craziness. And, I dunno, if you're getting bored with the classic tropes of the genre, maybe it's time to hang up at least one of the D&D games for a little while, or try some [I]Call of Cthulu[/I] or something Sci-Fi, or [I]Dread[/I], or whatever. Or maybe go for a change of pace and get one of your players to run a game including YOU as a player, so you could try out your own wacky character ideas? You still seem to me, to be freaking out about something that doesn't require any sort of freak out. It's not like you don't have plenty of character options for your games, even given your higher-than-normal level of players and your lower-than-normal patience for the well-worn tropes. *shrug*. I was kind of fond of the 3e BoVD, and it saw some use in my games (the enemies were nice, and the spells culled from the d20 Call of Cthulu were what gave me the idea to run a Cthulu/FR crossover that ranks as some of the most fun I've had with D&D, ever). If it's at least that good, it'll be pretty good to me. :) And if it's not, ah well. At least it's not just another bundle of dead trees. [/QUOTE]
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