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<blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 2110616" data-attributes="member: 4134">Not when they can surprise, flank, and backstab. Improved Invisibility isn't that hard to come by once the party arcanist has turned level 10 or so.And it won't hurt them to leave things as it is, either. So we just stay with the old concept, yes?First, honest fighting is for losers. You might have been honest in your fighting, but the other guy is the one still breathing, because he exploited his advantages as he got them.Second, it would make twf more cost-effective, strength-wise, for strength-based warrior types. So you would be better off with TWF whether you use strength or finesse. No, I like things as they are: there are good fighting styles for those with a lot of strength and raw fighting ability (namely, using a big weapon), and others for those who are agile and use tactical measures (i.e. sneak attack). So if you want to use TWF and be good at it, you shouldn't use strength alone and play straight fighter. Instead, you go another way.BTW: A rogue/righter can be a real deadly combination for TWF: Sneak Attack combined with tons of bonus feats to use for exotic weapons and increase of the fighting style. To sum it up: The 1x/0.5x rule for TWF is fine IMO. It won't prove more effective than using a Two-handed weapon and brute strength, but I don't think it should, as I don't picture two-weapon fighters as big guys with arms like tree trunks. Besides, it keeps the consistency with TWF in that you get 1.5x your strength if you use both of your arms.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kae'Yoss, post: 2110616, member: 4134"] Not when they can surprise, flank, and backstab. Improved Invisibility isn't that hard to come by once the party arcanist has turned level 10 or so. And it won't hurt them to leave things as it is, either. So we just stay with the old concept, yes? First, honest fighting is for losers. You might have been honest in your fighting, but the other guy is the one still breathing, because he exploited his advantages as he got them. Second, it would make twf more cost-effective, strength-wise, for strength-based warrior types. So you would be better off with TWF whether you use strength or finesse. No, I like things as they are: there are good fighting styles for those with a lot of strength and raw fighting ability (namely, using a big weapon), and others for those who are agile and use tactical measures (i.e. sneak attack). So if you want to use TWF and be good at it, you shouldn't use strength alone and play straight fighter. Instead, you go another way. BTW: A rogue/righter can be a real deadly combination for TWF: Sneak Attack combined with tons of bonus feats to use for exotic weapons and increase of the fighting style. To sum it up: The 1x/0.5x rule for TWF is fine IMO. It won't prove more effective than using a Two-handed weapon and brute strength, but I don't think it should, as I don't picture two-weapon fighters as big guys with arms like tree trunks. Besides, it keeps the consistency with TWF in that you get 1.5x your strength if you use both of your arms. [/QUOTE]

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