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<blockquote data-quote="Riley37" data-source="post: 7479889" data-attributes="member: 6786839"><p>Oh, the point stands, regarding individual autonomy and responsibility. I'm raising the idea that even if justice is an objective phenomenon, we each *see* it from individual perspective, such as the difference between Kal-El raised with the teachings (and loyalties) of the Kents, versus Jonzz raised with the culture of the Green Martians. Extending the metaphor of observing an object - such as a statue of Justice, with sword and scales - from one perspective: if one can walk around, and look at the statue again from another direction, one might then learn more about the full truth of the shape of Justice. Much as the blind people touching the elephant are all studying the same item, but starting with different parts... and with the option of learning from each other, or just bickering. Though as with the first-hand accounts from the Battle of Little Bighorn, sometimes the sum of the accounts of multiple observers still lacks satisfying coherence. (Thucydides had a somewhat similar description of the various stories he heard from participants in the Peloponessian War: what one event could have produced all these divergent stories?) Kal-El might see a perspective from the Fortress, and from the JLA satellite and the Bat-cave, which adds to the understandings he picked up from the Kents in his early life.</p><p></p><p>Some of us just accept what we were taught as children, and disregard any further input which doesn't match that paradigm; while others check those teachings against ongoing observation, truth testing, consistency checking. I think that divide might be part of the tensions of this thread, if you know what I mean.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Riley37, post: 7479889, member: 6786839"] Oh, the point stands, regarding individual autonomy and responsibility. I'm raising the idea that even if justice is an objective phenomenon, we each *see* it from individual perspective, such as the difference between Kal-El raised with the teachings (and loyalties) of the Kents, versus Jonzz raised with the culture of the Green Martians. Extending the metaphor of observing an object - such as a statue of Justice, with sword and scales - from one perspective: if one can walk around, and look at the statue again from another direction, one might then learn more about the full truth of the shape of Justice. Much as the blind people touching the elephant are all studying the same item, but starting with different parts... and with the option of learning from each other, or just bickering. Though as with the first-hand accounts from the Battle of Little Bighorn, sometimes the sum of the accounts of multiple observers still lacks satisfying coherence. (Thucydides had a somewhat similar description of the various stories he heard from participants in the Peloponessian War: what one event could have produced all these divergent stories?) Kal-El might see a perspective from the Fortress, and from the JLA satellite and the Bat-cave, which adds to the understandings he picked up from the Kents in his early life. Some of us just accept what we were taught as children, and disregard any further input which doesn't match that paradigm; while others check those teachings against ongoing observation, truth testing, consistency checking. I think that divide might be part of the tensions of this thread, if you know what I mean. [/QUOTE]
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