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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SlyDoubt" data-source="post: 5431635" data-attributes="member: 6667337">That's mostly how I've felt the whole time. I saw the power books and thought " that's cool but I think I've got enough to play with as it is" and recognized some people probably eat them up. I'm not a min-maxer power gamer type. Actually I've almost never even been a player. Almost exclusively a DM since 3E launched.I bought the 4E books when it launched because from what I had read before hand it seemed like it had many good ideas. I loved the power format and thought more variety in what characters can do each turn can only be a good thing. I've watched each release but the only thing I purchased beyond the original core books has been the dark sun books and the essentials books (minus DM kit and tiles). I've waited all this time and when I read the Essentials books in a local store I thought it sounded great. Liked the format, loved having a rules compendium and an updated monster manual that comes with tokens. Great stuff all around for me.I understand people who didn't like essentials. It ate up a lot of time and money to produce essentials and so instead of continuing things as normal for many people a bunch of products they had zero interest in were produced. I sympathize but honestly I've got plenty of other stuff to keep me busy when Wizards isn't putting out books I want to buy. I guess the difference between me and people who can't just accept that and move on is I'm not able to play as often or am not as deeply involved in the hobby. With each book and change to what I was used to (3E) I was a bit more skeptical but I thought the 4E framework was an excellent one (for the most part) so I just stuck around hoping it'd turn my way. Well it did with essentials but it seems from there it's unknown once again. If you couldn't tell I'm still really bummed about the class compendium cancellation. That was really like a stake to the heart for my burgeoning interest in 4E and now I feel again like I should just continue my 3.5 Eberron campaign and keep waiting and hoping. We'll see. I pray wotc provides the class compendium material that isn't specifically optional add-on in the form of downloadable pdfs. I want to know how essentials and traditional things should be handled together as far as swapping and class abilities. I'd kill for an updated phb as far as errata and all and that's what I thought the class compendium would be but now I don't know. I guess I should be printing and pasting...? :/</blockquote>

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