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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4494170" data-attributes="member: 2067">The simpler explanation, in my mind, would be that they statted Grazzie up for beating before they bothered to give him a shiny new backstory. Because flavor doesn't really require mechanical rhyme or reason in 4e, and origin is nearly meaningless, you could switch him to immortal if you wanted to use that angle, but he's not given it by default because "Demons are Elementals, Devils are Immortals." Thought process?Graz'zt is a demon prince -> Graz'zt is Elemental; then We Need Backstory -> Graz'zt is a double agent from Hell maybe? Separate processes. Separate conclusions. Not really exclusive or incompatible, but never really explained. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Wrought iron fence made of tigers.His backstory is fine. I think it was...er...richer before, but I really wouldn't expect 4e to spend much time on telling you what plots might be cool. That really isn't its style. I wouldn't expect a whole lot more backstory than we're given here. I mean, we were told to wait for some in the MM when it came and then...there wasn't...so I don't think there's a good reason to expect it here.But what they give him works for what they expect him to be used for. He'll be an epic-level big bad you beat up and take his points, everything else is up to you.</blockquote>