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<blockquote data-quote="Derren" data-source="post: 4066052" data-attributes="member: 2518">The rogue looks more or less ok, but there are some things I am not happy about.1. Reduced weapons list. Rogues where never known for their many weapon profiencies but this is a very short list.2. It requires a class ability to get an advantage when you surprise the enemy/act before them in combat? That doesn't seem right.3. Where is the acrobatic rogue? Didn't he have enough combat application?4. I think its not a good idea to allow a class to ignore armor at will.5. Assuming that rogues are still the &quot;skill monkeys&quot; it seems that for some classes it can become quite hard in becoming trained in skills which are not on their class skill list (when they get less than the 4 free picks the rogue has). Isn't that the 3E fighter skill problem redux?Yes, thats a problem with SAGA skills. You can't choose to be not good at something. You can of course simply not use the skills you don't want to have but this is a inelegant solution.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Derren, post: 4066052, member: 2518"] The rogue looks more or less ok, but there are some things I am not happy about. 1. Reduced weapons list. Rogues where never known for their many weapon profiencies but this is a very short list. 2. It requires a class ability to get an advantage when you surprise the enemy/act before them in combat? That doesn't seem right. 3. Where is the acrobatic rogue? Didn't he have enough combat application? 4. I think its not a good idea to allow a class to ignore armor at will. 5. Assuming that rogues are still the "skill monkeys" it seems that for some classes it can become quite hard in becoming trained in skills which are not on their class skill list (when they get less than the 4 free picks the rogue has). Isn't that the 3E fighter skill problem redux? Yes, thats a problem with SAGA skills. You can't choose to be not good at something. You can of course simply not use the skills you don't want to have but this is a inelegant solution. [/QUOTE]

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