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<blockquote data-quote="outsider" data-source="post: 4066742" data-attributes="member: 54690">I find this thread funny, because it has Wormwood complaining about 4e and Lizard arguing against his complaints.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp; Nothing like a good show of crunch to shake up people's expectations!The rogue looks great.&nbsp; Finally some good attack options other than Flank-&gt;Sneak Attack.&nbsp; The rogue has ability to attack any of the 4 defences, which should be nice.&nbsp; Would be better if they had at wills that attack each of the 4 defences, but who knows, maybe there'll be other powers to cover that.&nbsp; It would give them alot of offensive flexibility if they could simply attack whichever defence appears to be weakest on their foe at will.I'm not really a big fan of Wizards putting suggested builds into the books.&nbsp; But, I know that ultimately I'll find far better builds than what they suggest anyways, so it's not a big deal.&nbsp; Might help less mechanically minded players build a decent character, so I can see why they did it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="outsider, post: 4066742, member: 54690"] I find this thread funny, because it has Wormwood complaining about 4e and Lizard arguing against his complaints. :D Nothing like a good show of crunch to shake up people's expectations! The rogue looks great. Finally some good attack options other than Flank->Sneak Attack. The rogue has ability to attack any of the 4 defences, which should be nice. Would be better if they had at wills that attack each of the 4 defences, but who knows, maybe there'll be other powers to cover that. It would give them alot of offensive flexibility if they could simply attack whichever defence appears to be weakest on their foe at will. I'm not really a big fan of Wizards putting suggested builds into the books. But, I know that ultimately I'll find far better builds than what they suggest anyways, so it's not a big deal. Might help less mechanically minded players build a decent character, so I can see why they did it. [/QUOTE]

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