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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 2246990" data-attributes="member: 4937">Note that these are rules interpretation issues.Do you see the flaw in the logic of that?&nbsp;&nbsp; People can have opposing common sense conclusions about what the rules themselves say.&nbsp;&nbsp; In fact, in the rules forum almost all the arguments are over how to interpret the rules, and I daresay that most game arguments are about that too.&nbsp; Take any particular game action, and if you go into enough detail you'll eventually run into enough ambigous space in the rules to have an interpretation problem.&nbsp;&nbsp; So, then you aren't even left with the rules.Unlimately, when people with opposing common sense conclusions deadlock, all you are left with is DM authority and the willingness of the PC's to cede thier preferences to the DM's for the sake of the game.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you don't have that willingness to respect the DM's decision as final - regardless of whether you agree with it or even think its reasonable - then you don't have anything and the rules can't save you.&nbsp;&nbsp; Some people's willingness to do this is limited (for perfectly understandable reasons), and having 'the rules' as a crutch can provide them enough reassurance to allow them to continue playing, but ultimately the game will always come down to whether the PC's trust the DM's judgement.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 2246990, member: 4937"] Note that these are rules interpretation issues. Do you see the flaw in the logic of that? People can have opposing common sense conclusions about what the rules themselves say. In fact, in the rules forum almost all the arguments are over how to interpret the rules, and I daresay that most game arguments are about that too. Take any particular game action, and if you go into enough detail you'll eventually run into enough ambigous space in the rules to have an interpretation problem. So, then you aren't even left with the rules. Unlimately, when people with opposing common sense conclusions deadlock, all you are left with is DM authority and the willingness of the PC's to cede thier preferences to the DM's for the sake of the game. If you don't have that willingness to respect the DM's decision as final - regardless of whether you agree with it or even think its reasonable - then you don't have anything and the rules can't save you. Some people's willingness to do this is limited (for perfectly understandable reasons), and having 'the rules' as a crutch can provide them enough reassurance to allow them to continue playing, but ultimately the game will always come down to whether the PC's trust the DM's judgement. [/QUOTE]

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