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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 6694547" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>Never played that one, but to me its completely the type of game I would absolutely despise playing. In general, I dislike "0-level" adventures; 1st level PCs are fragile enough and I really don't get the "enter as a pig farmer, leave as a paladin" model of character creation. Double-as-much if I find myself 0 level, with nothing but sticks or daggers to defend myself, and the notion that hundreds/thousands of XP later, you'll be a REAL PC. Skip the bumbling-commoner stage and let me play a novice squire, an apprentice mage, or a young cutpurse instead. </p><p></p><p>Of course, that's me. If others like it, more power to them. </p><p></p><p>I did once play (as I've alluded to) an AD&D 2e game where we all woke up in a lich's dungeon. (Said lich was not home, but left skeleton and goblins to guard it; it was a 1st level adventure). We woke up with nothing but loin clothes. We did the whole "escape our cell" trick and made it about half-way through his dungeon. The mage had no spells (knocked out to start) and his spellbook was in the lich's tomb. The cleric lacked a holy symbol so all he could cast was cure light wounds and couldn't turn undead. The fighter (me) and ranger found leather armor and daggers (and later, a mace and shortbow) and the thief lacked lockpicks, so when he made it to the locked first door (which was trapped) he ended up just forcing the door and died from the poison needle. About three rooms later, we ended up TPK'd to a group of skeletons and woke up (less one thief, who I think rolled up a fighter for round 2) back in cell, without anything we had acquired (even our loinclothes!) I'm pretty sure the game fell apart soon after that. </p><p></p><p>Now, I realize its an anecdote and that was pretty much the DM being unreasonable in his expectations of a first level party without gear, buts it left a sour taste in my mouth for "naked in a dungeon" cold openers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 6694547, member: 7635"] Never played that one, but to me its completely the type of game I would absolutely despise playing. In general, I dislike "0-level" adventures; 1st level PCs are fragile enough and I really don't get the "enter as a pig farmer, leave as a paladin" model of character creation. Double-as-much if I find myself 0 level, with nothing but sticks or daggers to defend myself, and the notion that hundreds/thousands of XP later, you'll be a REAL PC. Skip the bumbling-commoner stage and let me play a novice squire, an apprentice mage, or a young cutpurse instead. Of course, that's me. If others like it, more power to them. I did once play (as I've alluded to) an AD&D 2e game where we all woke up in a lich's dungeon. (Said lich was not home, but left skeleton and goblins to guard it; it was a 1st level adventure). We woke up with nothing but loin clothes. We did the whole "escape our cell" trick and made it about half-way through his dungeon. The mage had no spells (knocked out to start) and his spellbook was in the lich's tomb. The cleric lacked a holy symbol so all he could cast was cure light wounds and couldn't turn undead. The fighter (me) and ranger found leather armor and daggers (and later, a mace and shortbow) and the thief lacked lockpicks, so when he made it to the locked first door (which was trapped) he ended up just forcing the door and died from the poison needle. About three rooms later, we ended up TPK'd to a group of skeletons and woke up (less one thief, who I think rolled up a fighter for round 2) back in cell, without anything we had acquired (even our loinclothes!) I'm pretty sure the game fell apart soon after that. Now, I realize its an anecdote and that was pretty much the DM being unreasonable in his expectations of a first level party without gear, buts it left a sour taste in my mouth for "naked in a dungeon" cold openers. [/QUOTE]
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