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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8558645" data-attributes="member: 177">Rewards are not universal.&nbsp; What is intrinsically and extrinsically rewarding depends on the person and their individual drives and needs.&nbsp; Also, one needs to be careful to separate the thing that is itself rewarding, and the trigger for the reward, which can be separate.For example - for many software engineers, a salary is an extrinsic reward.&nbsp; Yes, they need it to pay the bills, but it isn't why they do the job.&nbsp; For many of them, actually completing a project, finishing building something that works, is intrinsically rewarding.&nbsp; However, simply submitting the last bit of code may not give them the feeling of reward.&nbsp; If the job is done, but sitting in a code repository, they don't see that as rewarding. Officially releasing the software, even if it is a business process rather than a technical one, signals to them the job is complete, and allows them to get that warm fuzzy feeling of having crafted a thing.&nbsp; The release ritual is not itself intrinsically rewarding, but the intrinsic reward can't be achieved without it.So, perhaps for you, XP is not an intrinsic reward.&nbsp; But for others at the same table, it may either be intrinsic, or a gate or requirement they need to get the intrinsic reward, so it cannot be discounted until review the needs of the people at the table.This underlies choice of playstyle in a game - various styles of play tick off different reward possibilities.&nbsp; Folks like different playstyles because they have different reward needs.&nbsp; Given thet XP driven play is pretty common, we should allow that the XP are really important for some people's rewards, if not for your own.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8558645, member: 177"] Rewards are not universal. What is intrinsically and extrinsically rewarding [I]depends on the person[/I] and their individual drives and needs. Also, one needs to be careful to separate the thing that is itself rewarding, and the trigger for the reward, which can be separate. For example - for many software engineers, a salary is an extrinsic reward. Yes, they need it to pay the bills, but it isn't why they do the job. For many of them, actually completing a project, finishing building something that works, is intrinsically rewarding. However, simply submitting the last bit of code may not give them the feeling of reward. If the job is done, but sitting in a code repository, they don't see that as rewarding. Officially releasing the software, even if it is a business process rather than a technical one, signals to them the job is complete, and allows them to get that warm fuzzy feeling of having crafted a thing. The release ritual is not itself intrinsically rewarding, but the intrinsic reward can't be achieved without it. So, perhaps for you, XP is not an intrinsic reward. But for others at the same table, it may either be intrinsic, or a gate or requirement they need to get the intrinsic reward, so it cannot be discounted until review the needs of the people at the table. This underlies choice of playstyle in a game - various styles of play tick off different reward possibilities. Folks like different playstyles because they have different reward needs. Given thet XP driven play is pretty common, we should allow that the XP are really important for some people's rewards, if not for your own. [/QUOTE]

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