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<blockquote data-quote="Worrgrendel" data-source="post: 7943747" data-attributes="member: 6801210"><p>I think it is a bit much to assume you are just going to get Gauntlets of Ogre Power/Girdle of Giant Strength and a Holy Avenger all in one campaign. I'd say one of those, maybe, and then probably just the Gauntlets. I don't feel like any magic items should just be assumed to get in a campaign. Especially Legendary ones.</p><p></p><p>I've already said my peace on the Paladin aura.</p><p></p><p>They do have decent healing/utility spells but not overwhelmingly so.</p><p></p><p>Any CHA based character by default is decent in the social pillar. I don't think this is necessarily something to force the Paladin into. Any character can be the face of the party. I actually like characters being the face of the party that aren't high CHA characters. Makes it more fun than roll persuasion/intimidate/deception with your + 17 maxed out, expertise skill set every social encounter.</p><p></p><p>Anyone can fight mounted with little or no detriment to their character. Hell, even the "mounted" subclass Cavalier isn't really much better at mounted combat than a wizard.</p><p></p><p>Paladins are kinda MAD, again, not assuming magic items. You need high STR and CHA and a decent CON for being in melee. You can lower MAD by just taking a few levels in Hexblade which gives you CHA to attack/damage plus some free short rest smite slots but that's another topic/thread.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Worrgrendel, post: 7943747, member: 6801210"] I think it is a bit much to assume you are just going to get Gauntlets of Ogre Power/Girdle of Giant Strength and a Holy Avenger all in one campaign. I'd say one of those, maybe, and then probably just the Gauntlets. I don't feel like any magic items should just be assumed to get in a campaign. Especially Legendary ones. I've already said my peace on the Paladin aura. They do have decent healing/utility spells but not overwhelmingly so. Any CHA based character by default is decent in the social pillar. I don't think this is necessarily something to force the Paladin into. Any character can be the face of the party. I actually like characters being the face of the party that aren't high CHA characters. Makes it more fun than roll persuasion/intimidate/deception with your + 17 maxed out, expertise skill set every social encounter. Anyone can fight mounted with little or no detriment to their character. Hell, even the "mounted" subclass Cavalier isn't really much better at mounted combat than a wizard. Paladins are kinda MAD, again, not assuming magic items. You need high STR and CHA and a decent CON for being in melee. You can lower MAD by just taking a few levels in Hexblade which gives you CHA to attack/damage plus some free short rest smite slots but that's another topic/thread. [/QUOTE]
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