Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Million Dollar TTRPG Crowdfunders
Most Anticipated Tabletop RPGs Of The Year
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
ShortQuests -- individual adventure modules! An all-new collection of digest-sized D&D adventures designed to plug in to your game.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
An assortment of monstrous abilities
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="CRGreathouse" data-source="post: 1982283" data-attributes="member: 474"><p>OK, just checking. (You should probably list this at the end of the monster entry as "Skills: Khaaglas has a +300 racial bonus to Jump checks.")</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I was also just checking here. In the same way, you might want to mention this in the entry. I was wondering how the Listen check was so low, but I guessed (correctly!) that it would be related to the Listen bonus here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Several years ago, before 3.5 came out, I wrote a "race generator" which tried to estimate CR. It was actually pretty good, at least (a) compared to other estimators, like the Dragon CR Guesstimator, and (b) for melee-style monsters. It rated about 85% of the monsters in the 3.0 MM to within a point of CR.</p><p></p><p>Now I know this is old and ugly, and 3.5 has different balance assumptions than 3.0, but just for kicks I entered your monster.</p><p><a href="http://mwtools.thyle.net/race_gen.html" target="_blank">http://mwtools.thyle.net/race_gen.html</a></p><p></p><p>It suggests a CR of 16, although admittedly it's not counting in the +20 hit points Medium-szie constructs get in 3.5 (since oozes, not constructs, got the bonus in 3.0). Higher damage would be the primary method of increasing the CR, as you said.</p><p></p><p>(If you decide to fool around with the race gen, I'll warn you now that it doesn't rate DR as high as it should be rated, mainly as a result of 3.0 -> 3.5 changes.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CRGreathouse, post: 1982283, member: 474"] OK, just checking. (You should probably list this at the end of the monster entry as "Skills: Khaaglas has a +300 racial bonus to Jump checks.") I was also just checking here. In the same way, you might want to mention this in the entry. I was wondering how the Listen check was so low, but I guessed (correctly!) that it would be related to the Listen bonus here. Several years ago, before 3.5 came out, I wrote a "race generator" which tried to estimate CR. It was actually pretty good, at least (a) compared to other estimators, like the Dragon CR Guesstimator, and (b) for melee-style monsters. It rated about 85% of the monsters in the 3.0 MM to within a point of CR. Now I know this is old and ugly, and 3.5 has different balance assumptions than 3.0, but just for kicks I entered your monster. [url]http://mwtools.thyle.net/race_gen.html[/url] It suggests a CR of 16, although admittedly it's not counting in the +20 hit points Medium-szie constructs get in 3.5 (since oozes, not constructs, got the bonus in 3.0). Higher damage would be the primary method of increasing the CR, as you said. (If you decide to fool around with the race gen, I'll warn you now that it doesn't rate DR as high as it should be rated, mainly as a result of 3.0 -> 3.5 changes.) [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
An assortment of monstrous abilities
Top