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<blockquote data-quote="seankreynolds" data-source="post: 1637142" data-attributes="member: 3029"><p>And you're being rude.</p><p></p><p>{He obviously hasn't read a d20 book since FRCS...}</p><p></p><p>Not true ... I just haven't used most of the post-PH/DMG/MM books as a reference for anything I've written or in a campaign.</p><p> </p><p>{Artifice appeared in <em>Deities and Demigods</em>.}</p><p></p><p>A book which I skimmed when it came out and haven't touched since. Heck, the book was still in development when we were using it as a reference for Faiths & Pantheons, and changed in many ways, and since then I haven't worked on a book or a campaign that needed to explicitly state the powers and stats of a god. ::shrug::</p><p></p><p>{Community has appeared in Every book since the PH that has had new domains (including FRCS)}</p><p></p><p>You are mistaken. The FRCS doesn't have the Community domain. You may be thinking of the Family domain. And other than four spells in common (bless, telepathic bond, heroes' feast, refuge), the Community domain and the Family domain aren't the same (the remaining spells and the domain power are quite different).</p><p></p><p>{Exorcism was in <em>Defenders of the Faith</em>}</p><p></p><p>A book which IMO was hit-or-miss, and since all of my later work at WotC was FR, we couldn't draw on it without resorting to recopying, and given that we already had a bunch of new domains in FR and didn't need to add any more....</p><p></p><p>{Passion and Meditiation were in <em>Dragonlance Campaign Setting</em>}</p><p></p><p>A book which I have and plan to review, but have only skimmed the classes and feats section so far.</p><p></p><p>{Shadow is the renamed Darkness Domain (FRCS/D&DG)}</p><p></p><p>I can see how you would think that, but the only things those domains have in common are the domain power (free Blind-Fight feat) and their 1st-level spell (obscuring mist). Thus, Shadow is not the same domain as the FRCS Darkness domain.</p><p></p><p>{Deathless is no where near the Repose domain. Neither the granted power nor the spell list is similar.}</p><p></p><p>Yeah, looking at it now I have no idea why I said that. Of course, if you admit that Deathless !== Repose, I think you have to admit that Community !== Family and Shadow !== Darkness.</p><p></p><p>{Repose was in D&DG and <em>Faith and Pantheons</em> (Not <em>Oriental Adventures</em>)}</p><p></p><p>Hmm,</p><p></p><p>{Only Community appeared in <em>Book of Exalted Deeds</em>, none appeared in <em>Book of Vile Darkness</em>}</p><p></p><p>Neither of which I have, so I was just guessing.</p><p>Sean needs to do his domain homework.</p><p> </p><p>{EDIT: Sean might have met the Grave Domain from OA, not Repose.}</p><p></p><p>Well, we reprinted Repose in Faiths & Pantheons and the text notes associated with it in the designers' turnover say Repose is from DDG/OA. So if that's wrong, well, then it's wrong. In any case, I meant Repose, not Grave, though I realize now Repose and Deathless are not even similar. I'll update the review with the correct origins of the feats I mis-origined, though I will stad by my comments that the domains I say are different _are_ different and not variants of the ones you mention.</p><p></p><p>Barring these details on books that aren't part of my Eberron review (and really, if I'm reviewing a book and say it has "new to me" domains and get the origins of some of the "sounds familiar but I'm not sure" domains wrong, does that really matter? I'm not reviewing the other books, I'm reviewing Eberron), do you have any other corrections for the review?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seankreynolds, post: 1637142, member: 3029"] And you're being rude. {He obviously hasn't read a d20 book since FRCS...} Not true ... I just haven't used most of the post-PH/DMG/MM books as a reference for anything I've written or in a campaign. {Artifice appeared in [i]Deities and Demigods[/i].} A book which I skimmed when it came out and haven't touched since. Heck, the book was still in development when we were using it as a reference for Faiths & Pantheons, and changed in many ways, and since then I haven't worked on a book or a campaign that needed to explicitly state the powers and stats of a god. ::shrug:: {Community has appeared in Every book since the PH that has had new domains (including FRCS)} You are mistaken. The FRCS doesn't have the Community domain. You may be thinking of the Family domain. And other than four spells in common (bless, telepathic bond, heroes' feast, refuge), the Community domain and the Family domain aren't the same (the remaining spells and the domain power are quite different). {Exorcism was in [i]Defenders of the Faith[/i]} A book which IMO was hit-or-miss, and since all of my later work at WotC was FR, we couldn't draw on it without resorting to recopying, and given that we already had a bunch of new domains in FR and didn't need to add any more.... {Passion and Meditiation were in [i]Dragonlance Campaign Setting[/i]} A book which I have and plan to review, but have only skimmed the classes and feats section so far. {Shadow is the renamed Darkness Domain (FRCS/D&DG)} I can see how you would think that, but the only things those domains have in common are the domain power (free Blind-Fight feat) and their 1st-level spell (obscuring mist). Thus, Shadow is not the same domain as the FRCS Darkness domain. {Deathless is no where near the Repose domain. Neither the granted power nor the spell list is similar.} Yeah, looking at it now I have no idea why I said that. Of course, if you admit that Deathless !== Repose, I think you have to admit that Community !== Family and Shadow !== Darkness. {Repose was in D&DG and [i]Faith and Pantheons[/i] (Not [i]Oriental Adventures[/i])} Hmm, {Only Community appeared in [i]Book of Exalted Deeds[/i], none appeared in [i]Book of Vile Darkness[/i]} Neither of which I have, so I was just guessing. Sean needs to do his domain homework. {EDIT: Sean might have met the Grave Domain from OA, not Repose.} Well, we reprinted Repose in Faiths & Pantheons and the text notes associated with it in the designers' turnover say Repose is from DDG/OA. So if that's wrong, well, then it's wrong. In any case, I meant Repose, not Grave, though I realize now Repose and Deathless are not even similar. I'll update the review with the correct origins of the feats I mis-origined, though I will stad by my comments that the domains I say are different _are_ different and not variants of the ones you mention. Barring these details on books that aren't part of my Eberron review (and really, if I'm reviewing a book and say it has "new to me" domains and get the origins of some of the "sounds familiar but I'm not sure" domains wrong, does that really matter? I'm not reviewing the other books, I'm reviewing Eberron), do you have any other corrections for the review? [/QUOTE]
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