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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 3880292" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>Well, that's <em>your</em> interpretation, sure. Hit points are an abstraction, after all. But I think here you're conflating your personal sense of what is acceptable suspension of disbelief and assuming the rules back that up. If I read correctly, you are saying that swimming in lava <strong>is</strong> lethal...and since the rules say that your character doesn't automatically die from doing it, that you clearly aren't <em>really</em> swimming in lava, because that's crazy-talk...so when you make your save or take a small amount of damage, it's because you never actually touched the lava or found a cool spot or what have you. The 3.x PHB doesn't really make that kind of distinction (while the AD&D book may, I haven't played that game in nearly 20 years, so it doesn't really resonate with me).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To wit: it's perfectly valid for you to assume the second definition...but others may choose to use the former. Some folks will choose that Conan is just skilled at side-stepping a sword, turning a killing blow into a grazing one. Others may feel that Conan simply has toughened his body through rigorous combat to become impervious to pain and hardened to damage. <em>Both</em> are valid interpetations, afaict. This is why, in fact, we have things like poisons that do CON damage to kill you, instead of hit points. It avoids the abstraction of hit points entirely.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 3880292, member: 151"] Well, that's [i]your[/i] interpretation, sure. Hit points are an abstraction, after all. But I think here you're conflating your personal sense of what is acceptable suspension of disbelief and assuming the rules back that up. If I read correctly, you are saying that swimming in lava [b]is[/b] lethal...and since the rules say that your character doesn't automatically die from doing it, that you clearly aren't [i]really[/i] swimming in lava, because that's crazy-talk...so when you make your save or take a small amount of damage, it's because you never actually touched the lava or found a cool spot or what have you. The 3.x PHB doesn't really make that kind of distinction (while the AD&D book may, I haven't played that game in nearly 20 years, so it doesn't really resonate with me). To wit: it's perfectly valid for you to assume the second definition...but others may choose to use the former. Some folks will choose that Conan is just skilled at side-stepping a sword, turning a killing blow into a grazing one. Others may feel that Conan simply has toughened his body through rigorous combat to become impervious to pain and hardened to damage. [i]Both[/i] are valid interpetations, afaict. This is why, in fact, we have things like poisons that do CON damage to kill you, instead of hit points. It avoids the abstraction of hit points entirely. [/QUOTE]
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