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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lackhand" data-source="post: 3883201" data-attributes="member: 36160">I'm a *little* worried about players using SBT on the bad guys who are incautious in their use of anti-SBT tactics.I'm a *lot* worried about villains returning the favor.I suspect that this is in many ways a playstyle thing: I am very much opposed to using very specific spells to cancel a class of effects as a balance for that class of effects being "too good", where "too good" is very very situation dependent.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> It kills character concepts to me: every anti-scry measure is going to be Abjuration or Illusion, because that's what breaks divination. Some villains (insane warmage? Vile necromancer?) may not care a whit for divination or illusion. It doesn't seem unreasonable to still want to use them in an adventure as the BBEG without them having a pet thaumaturge.I suspect seeing Scry/Buff/Teleport-countermeasures as a foil for the strength of the technique correlates strongly with enjoying save or die effects. They're very similar in that they both have a character who is perfectly fine with the proper wards up, completely screwed if any wards are missing (assuming that the DM is a jerk, which relatively little can prevent  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />  ).Nothing wrong with that, but not for me.</blockquote>

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