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Message: <blockquote data-quote="amethal" data-source="post: 2282100" data-attributes="member: 22784">I love this kind of argument.Are we trying to impose D&D on the real world, or the real world on D&D?If we are trying to impose D&D on the real world, how would you begin to assess the levels, ability scores, skill points etc. of world leaders? Having done that impossible task, you'd have to do the same for all the potential world leaders waiting to take over.I would argue that even when you know which UK party leader, American presidential candidate, Indian politician etc. etc. has the most impressive "character sheet" it won't give you the guaranteed winner in the election. Even if you use the "adventuring party" analogy and account for the key friends and supporters of the candidates, there are still a vast number of factors completely outside of the players' control.D&D is also not geared up for political contests. "Intelligence", "Wisdom", "Charisma" etc. are very broad terms. Even if two politicans have identical scores in all 3, one may be better at kissing babies whilst the other is better at impressing the guys in the pub. Who knows which talent will prove more useful in the election?This is getting to be a very long post! I'll cut it short by saying that in D&D NPCs can get a +50 circumstance bonus to their "staying alive and in power" check due to various social, geographical, political, historical, geneological, demographic and economic reasons which the DM is not obliged to spell out to the players.Also, stable countries are generally not receptive to the idea that the best candidate for ruler is the one who proves most consistently able to "kill every motherf***** in the room" .</blockquote>

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