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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8998170" data-attributes="member: 42582">The reason for objections in the posts is not the one you posit.It's very straightforward: the objector said (to the effect of) Why would my poor public speaking cause it to rain? That is: the objector wants the consequences that are narrated at the table, which are caused by the failing of the check at the table, to be - in the fiction - things caused by the actions of the character. And the actions of the character, very obviously, don't cause rain to fall.Another way to put it is this: at the objector's table there is no need for the AW principle, &quot;Make your move, but misdirect.&quot; The purpose of that principle, in AW, is to remind the GM that when they say things because of what happens at the table, they need to introduce an appropriate in-fiction cause. There is no need for that principle if every consequence that is narrated at the table is caused by the actions of the character in the fiction, as in this case the in-fiction causation is always obvious without needing to be expressly elucidated.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8998170, member: 42582"] The reason for objections in the posts is not the one you posit. It's very straightforward: the objector said (to the effect of) [I]Why would my poor public speaking cause it to rain?[/I] That is: the objector wants the consequences that are narrated at the table, which are caused by the failing of the check at the table, to be - in the fiction - things caused by the actions of the character. And the actions of the character, very obviously, don't cause rain to fall. Another way to put it is this: at the objector's table there is no need for the AW principle, "Make your move, but misdirect." The purpose of that principle, in AW, is to remind the GM that [I]when they say things because of what happens at the table[/I], they need to [I]introduce an appropriate in-fiction cause.[/I] There is no need for that principle if every consequence that is narrated at the table is caused by the actions of the character in the fiction, as in this case the in-fiction causation is always obvious without needing to be expressly elucidated. [/QUOTE]

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