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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 131774" data-attributes="member: 114">Initial thoughts on requirements:Only Bard, Wizard and Priests with Knowledge domain have unrestricted access to Knowledge skills. They could possibly qualify after 7th level, other classes who have to cross-class will not be able to take any levels until they have reached 17th level, limiting them to only 3 levels of this class.The Lawful good requirement knocks bards out of the running since they cannot be lawful!Thus this looks like a prestige class for Wizards and Knowledge Priests. Is that really what is wanted?Initial thoughts on skills:Perform(Oration) ??? This is the Star Wars d20 way of handling Perform, and doesn't apply in standard D&amp;D.Initial thoughts on saves:All good saves? No, I disagree here completely! I would have expected good Will, poor Fort and Refl saves. They are philosophers, not Monks who are honing their body to perfection!Special Abilities:Statecraft - I think adding Int AND Wis to diplomacy checks is too big. I'd suggest adding Int for Statecraft and later adding Wis too for Statesman (mimicing the difference between craft and profession skills)Preserve the Body Preserve the State - what is with this &quot;add both Int and Wis&quot; to something? Again too powerful. Pick one and stick with it I'd say.Spells:Considering that entry into this class is basically for wizards and clerics, they are then giving up their future spell casting ability for a very minor ability to cast a select few spells. Not very appealing for them</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 131774, member: 114"] Initial thoughts on requirements: Only Bard, Wizard and Priests with Knowledge domain have unrestricted access to Knowledge skills. They could possibly qualify after 7th level, other classes who have to cross-class will not be able to take any levels until they have reached 17th level, limiting them to only 3 levels of this class. The Lawful good requirement knocks bards out of the running since they cannot be lawful! Thus this looks like a prestige class for Wizards and Knowledge Priests. Is that really what is wanted? Initial thoughts on skills: Perform(Oration) ??? This is the Star Wars d20 way of handling Perform, and doesn't apply in standard D&D. Initial thoughts on saves: All good saves? No, I disagree here completely! I would have expected good Will, poor Fort and Refl saves. They are philosophers, not Monks who are honing their body to perfection! Special Abilities: Statecraft - I think adding Int AND Wis to diplomacy checks is too big. I'd suggest adding Int for Statecraft and later adding Wis too for Statesman (mimicing the difference between craft and profession skills) Preserve the Body Preserve the State - what is with this "add both Int and Wis" to something? Again too powerful. Pick one and stick with it I'd say. Spells: Considering that entry into this class is basically for wizards and clerics, they are then giving up their future spell casting ability for a very minor ability to cast a select few spells. Not very appealing for them [/QUOTE]

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