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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Telsar" data-source="post: 1553757" data-attributes="member: 18837">I haven't seen the Green Ronin rules, but I like this idea.  It gives wizards an entirely different feel, weakening themselves with every spell cast.  The formula seems a little high, though; a wizard with no Con bonus can't cast spells 4th level or higher at full power without knocking themselves out; even 3rd level spells will probably exceed their total HPs (3rd level spell x 5th level caster = 15 damage.  Average HPs for a 5th level wizard is 14).  But maybe that's the effect you were looking for.I think wizards above 5th level should get some additional benefits; high level wizards won't really balance with the other classes if they can't cast high level spells without knocking themselves out.  I expect alot of characters would multiclass, not raising wizard above 5th, and having fighter-like classes to increase their HPs.But I don't think I'd get rid of the minimum caster levels.  Not every spell has damage (or even range or duration) affected by level.  Can I cast Meteor Swarm at 1st level caster level?  Still full damage, the only reduction would be it's range, and it would only cost 9 HPs.If I were making this as a new class (and I might for my campaigns, it's a great idea and easily implemented), I think I'd change it to just costing caster level (not times spell level), and keep the minimums.  Then a wizard with no Con bonus could cast his spells at maximum caster level 2-3 times (4 times at 1st level with max HPs) before risking unconsciousness.</blockquote>

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