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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 7993259" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>The first one doesn't change much. Instead of <em>probably</em> the Wizard getting Wish at 17th level, she <em>certainly</em> gets it one level later but for free.</p><p></p><p>The second one requires a clarification: how does the Wizard cast a 10th level spell, since there are not 10th level slot? I assume you also want to give her one 10th level slot (usable also for other heightened spells) or otherwise just let her cast Greater Wish 1/day. Either way, this is a free boost (i.e. effectively a second 9th-level spell per day) to a character which at that level is already broken by having Wish in the first place.</p><p></p><p>Because let's face it... being able to cast ANY spell (even if excluding 9th level) from ANY class and ANY book at NO COST* is nothing but broken. The Sorcerer goes from knowing 14 spells to knowing 328 spells (PHB only) when they learn Wish. Sure, it's only 1/day and it costs your highest level slot. Still broken. It's the kind of capstone ability that throws balance off because anyway few gaming groups reach that level, and many who do reach it are probably bored at that point or getting near to wrapping the campaign anyway, so who cares if you've got Wish or a Deck of Many Things... have some wacky fun, then roll up some new 1st level characters.</p><p></p><p>*the design mistake with Wish is actually in this very precise spot: the DM's call for "something going wrong" when casting Wish should apply <em>also</em> to duplicating spells</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why, would you want to wrap up your campaign even at a level lower than 17th?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 7993259, member: 1465"] The first one doesn't change much. Instead of [I]probably[/I] the Wizard getting Wish at 17th level, she [I]certainly[/I] gets it one level later but for free. The second one requires a clarification: how does the Wizard cast a 10th level spell, since there are not 10th level slot? I assume you also want to give her one 10th level slot (usable also for other heightened spells) or otherwise just let her cast Greater Wish 1/day. Either way, this is a free boost (i.e. effectively a second 9th-level spell per day) to a character which at that level is already broken by having Wish in the first place. Because let's face it... being able to cast ANY spell (even if excluding 9th level) from ANY class and ANY book at NO COST* is nothing but broken. The Sorcerer goes from knowing 14 spells to knowing 328 spells (PHB only) when they learn Wish. Sure, it's only 1/day and it costs your highest level slot. Still broken. It's the kind of capstone ability that throws balance off because anyway few gaming groups reach that level, and many who do reach it are probably bored at that point or getting near to wrapping the campaign anyway, so who cares if you've got Wish or a Deck of Many Things... have some wacky fun, then roll up some new 1st level characters. *the design mistake with Wish is actually in this very precise spot: the DM's call for "something going wrong" when casting Wish should apply [I]also[/I] to duplicating spells Why, would you want to wrap up your campaign even at a level lower than 17th? [/QUOTE]
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