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<blockquote data-quote="The Sword 88" data-source="post: 4272855" data-attributes="member: 62472"><p>I agree with your list of breakthroughs</p><p></p><p>Flaws</p><p>1. I completely agree especially with INT and DEX and CHA and WIS, at least STR and CON both provide obvious bonuses with to hit and damage and with hp and surges whereas DEX is for non wizards and warlords clearly the superior stat and CHA and WIS comes down to skill selection and most builds will use either WIS or CHA skills and most likely not both.</p><p>2. True</p><p>3. I wish the greatsword were better but that's just a personal thing. I do agree that the weapons are lacking in uniqueness.</p><p>4. None yet, hopefully they will be released in later books which I think will be better anyway</p><p>5. Pretty much not true, while the ranger is pretty much better than the rogue the ranged ranger and warlock are roughly even and the the melee ranger is quite frequently in peril of dying.</p><p>6. As someone said these attacks lack a prof bonus but hit non AC defenses which balances things</p><p>7. Yes and no. I the at will magic is a little silly, the wizard should need to take a little break to recharge kind of like monsters have those die roll recharge powers, that way the wizard has a reason to carry a weapon as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Sword 88, post: 4272855, member: 62472"] I agree with your list of breakthroughs Flaws 1. I completely agree especially with INT and DEX and CHA and WIS, at least STR and CON both provide obvious bonuses with to hit and damage and with hp and surges whereas DEX is for non wizards and warlords clearly the superior stat and CHA and WIS comes down to skill selection and most builds will use either WIS or CHA skills and most likely not both. 2. True 3. I wish the greatsword were better but that's just a personal thing. I do agree that the weapons are lacking in uniqueness. 4. None yet, hopefully they will be released in later books which I think will be better anyway 5. Pretty much not true, while the ranger is pretty much better than the rogue the ranged ranger and warlock are roughly even and the the melee ranger is quite frequently in peril of dying. 6. As someone said these attacks lack a prof bonus but hit non AC defenses which balances things 7. Yes and no. I the at will magic is a little silly, the wizard should need to take a little break to recharge kind of like monsters have those die roll recharge powers, that way the wizard has a reason to carry a weapon as well. [/QUOTE]
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