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Message: <blockquote data-quote="airwalkrr" data-source="post: 5708796" data-attributes="member: 12460"><p>[sblock=Getting off-topic here...]Anything that attacks ability scores in D&D is pretty nasty, especially if it kills you and spawns another ability score damager once you hit 0. IMC I run ability score damage a little differently. I always round down to the nearest even number. So a shadow with an average of 3.5 Str damage becomes 2 Str damage. However, a single shadow in the hands of a single PC is not so much of an issue as a group of PCs being attacked by four shadows, or even a pair of lucky ones. By the time the shadowdancer gets the shadow, you are talking about level 10 and most CR 10+ monsters aren't going to really worry about the occasional 1d6 Str as much as a level 10 PC would. Finally, any decent DM is going to be quick to catch on and find ways to negate or lessen that advantage. I'm not saying the problem or opportunity for abuse isn't there, but it certainly isn't as big of an issue from the PC side of things.[/sblock]Jimlock, my only other suggestion might be to look in the Ghostwalk campaign setting. There might be some ideas in there. I own it but haven't ever really looked that carefully at it, but I know it uses the idea of PCs as ghosts.</p></blockquote><p></p>