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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 6499861" data-attributes="member: 12731">I thought about it more myself <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />...and I think I see what your problem is.As a DM you need to run the game this way:Only those tavern brawlers that are proficient with greatswords can and will see those &quot;strong resemblances&quot; in their misshapen lumps of scrap to &quot;actual greatswords&quot;. And then only when you the DM are in a generous mood.You don't have Tavern Brawler? Then you don't see the resemblance.You have Tavern Brawler but don't know how to use a greatsword? Then you don't see the resemblance either.This all comes to the word &quot;can&quot; in the PHB rules text.It means you, the DM, is in control. No player can or should feel entitled to spot the resemblance themselves.Remember, the feat does not mean the character gets to use not-Greatswords in every bar brawl. Only sometimes. Or even just that once!And if you don't know how to handle a real Greatsword, chances are you won't spot things that could work just like Greatswords either. You would instead go &quot;well, it looks like a shortsword, but it's far too large, so it's probably unusable...&quot; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />This way, we're still completely rules-legit. And no house rules needed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 6499861, member: 12731"] I thought about it more myself :p ...and I think I see what your problem is. As a DM you need to run the game this way: Only those tavern brawlers that are proficient with greatswords can and will see those "strong resemblances" in their misshapen lumps of scrap to "actual greatswords". And then only when you the DM are in a generous mood. You don't have Tavern Brawler? Then you don't see the resemblance. You have Tavern Brawler but don't know how to use a greatsword? Then you don't see the resemblance either. This all comes to the word "can" in the PHB rules text. It means you, the DM, is in control. No player can or should feel entitled to spot the resemblance themselves. Remember, the feat does not mean the character gets to use not-Greatswords in every bar brawl. Only sometimes. Or even just that once! And if you don't know how to handle a real Greatsword, chances are you won't spot things that could work just like Greatswords either. You would instead go "well, it [I]looks[/I] like a shortsword, but it's far too large, so it's probably unusable..." :p :) This way, we're still completely rules-legit. And no house rules needed. [/QUOTE]

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