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<blockquote data-quote="FurryFighter" data-source="post: 4925502" data-attributes="member: 85087"><p>ability scores still matter in what feats you are able to take. I think one of the major flaws, is that classes automatically give you feats, but then dont ask for a minimum.</p><p></p><p>Look at platemail. It requires a certain amount of str (does it also require con?), but I could roll some Chaladin with 10 str and still be able to put on plate because I have the feat?</p><p></p><p>Of course, this is a non-issue, because as you level, even your poorest ability scores surpass any required points to do something. Like a fighter will find it easy to auto-feat into something like the flail featthat gets a bonus against shield users, or the high-critting on all axes feat. These things do require high ability numbers, but if you rolled and built your character properly, you'll have the ability to gather these feats from level one.</p><p></p><p>In my opinion, ability scores are made far less important by this. If, instead of this, WOTC had done the good thing, and boosted up the requirements for feats that go beyond simpl wear/wield, such as feats that high crit all axes, and flails that have a bonus against shield users, by putting up the requirement to something like 24-26 str, and 22-24 dex, then all of the sudden, ability score become more important, and focusing your build becomes more important to get those feats, and this of course differentiates you from others.</p><p></p><p>basically, most feats taht have an ability requirement will be met automatically when you roll a character, as your at-wills require the same ability scores, in modifier points, to hit and damage, as those feats that require you to have a certain number of points in the ability it requires.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FurryFighter, post: 4925502, member: 85087"] ability scores still matter in what feats you are able to take. I think one of the major flaws, is that classes automatically give you feats, but then dont ask for a minimum. Look at platemail. It requires a certain amount of str (does it also require con?), but I could roll some Chaladin with 10 str and still be able to put on plate because I have the feat? Of course, this is a non-issue, because as you level, even your poorest ability scores surpass any required points to do something. Like a fighter will find it easy to auto-feat into something like the flail featthat gets a bonus against shield users, or the high-critting on all axes feat. These things do require high ability numbers, but if you rolled and built your character properly, you'll have the ability to gather these feats from level one. In my opinion, ability scores are made far less important by this. If, instead of this, WOTC had done the good thing, and boosted up the requirements for feats that go beyond simpl wear/wield, such as feats that high crit all axes, and flails that have a bonus against shield users, by putting up the requirement to something like 24-26 str, and 22-24 dex, then all of the sudden, ability score become more important, and focusing your build becomes more important to get those feats, and this of course differentiates you from others. basically, most feats taht have an ability requirement will be met automatically when you roll a character, as your at-wills require the same ability scores, in modifier points, to hit and damage, as those feats that require you to have a certain number of points in the ability it requires. [/QUOTE]
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