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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7837705" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p>Unless his friend throws it back. The situation has changed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, new information, clearly heard to a goblin who can be pretty sure that their friend heard it as well. "If you don't throw the sword back, you won't survive".</p><p></p><p>The goblin fails his save, and believe it. He has no reason to think the other (swordless) goblin doesn't believe the threat/suggestion.</p><p></p><p>So the other goblin comes to grab the sword. If the only way to survive is to throw it back, the changed situation means that what happen before will not happen again. Either he retains it to throw it back, or the other goblin - the backstabbing bastard - will throw it back and I'll die.</p><p></p><p>Remember, the goblin BELIEVES this. He will not survive unless HE throws it back. And the situation has changed because the other goblin has heard it as well, so there is no surety that what happened before will happen again.</p><p></p><p>As for the swordless goblin, he can either attempt a free action grab, which won't work if the other goblin is not handing it over, or can use an action t try and take it away, which means they aren't Dashing and the party will catch up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7837705, member: 20564"] Unless his friend throws it back. The situation has changed. So, new information, clearly heard to a goblin who can be pretty sure that their friend heard it as well. "If you don't throw the sword back, you won't survive". The goblin fails his save, and believe it. He has no reason to think the other (swordless) goblin doesn't believe the threat/suggestion. So the other goblin comes to grab the sword. If the only way to survive is to throw it back, the changed situation means that what happen before will not happen again. Either he retains it to throw it back, or the other goblin - the backstabbing bastard - will throw it back and I'll die. Remember, the goblin BELIEVES this. He will not survive unless HE throws it back. And the situation has changed because the other goblin has heard it as well, so there is no surety that what happened before will happen again. As for the swordless goblin, he can either attempt a free action grab, which won't work if the other goblin is not handing it over, or can use an action t try and take it away, which means they aren't Dashing and the party will catch up. [/QUOTE]
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