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<blockquote data-quote="kinem" data-source="post: 5810160" data-attributes="member: 24234">That's a problem with that specific feat, not with the iterative attack system. I wouldn't mind if rapid shot doesn't make it into the new edition. That feat's a bit overpowered and a little unrealistic, but people like it; it's one of the concessions to gamism that I can live with.In any case, the larger point is that more skilled fighters can attack more often, and not just hit harder. If we make a round 10 seconds instead of 6, then it's quite realistic that a skilled archer can shoot twice while a less skilled one would shoot once.That has more to do with parrying and with getting an AC bonus for having more skill, which I already called for.I agree with the E6 idea that the best real-world fighters are comparable to about 6th level (3.x). So talking about what 20th level fighters could do is not a question of the combat system being unrealistic, but a question of the experience and level system being unrealistic. I do think that a less steep experience slope is a good idea, as is being talked about for 5E.D&amp;D has to simulate both human and superhuman combat. When a solar goes at it with a pit fiend, human limitations aren't relevant.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kinem, post: 5810160, member: 24234"] That's a problem with that specific feat, not with the iterative attack system. I wouldn't mind if rapid shot doesn't make it into the new edition. That feat's a bit overpowered and a little unrealistic, but people like it; it's one of the concessions to gamism that I can live with. In any case, the larger point is that more skilled fighters can attack more often, and not just hit harder. If we make a round 10 seconds instead of 6, then it's quite realistic that a skilled archer can shoot twice while a less skilled one would shoot once. That has more to do with parrying and with getting an AC bonus for having more skill, which I already called for. I agree with the E6 idea that the best real-world fighters are comparable to about 6th level (3.x). So talking about what 20th level fighters could do is not a question of the combat system being unrealistic, but a question of the experience and level system being unrealistic. I do think that a less steep experience slope is a good idea, as is being talked about for 5E. D&D has to simulate both human and superhuman combat. When a solar goes at it with a pit fiend, human limitations aren't relevant. [/QUOTE]

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