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<blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 1599262" data-attributes="member: 2013">That's why I went through the trouble of tracing two routes... one route for &quot;Computer Programs,&quot; where Section 117 applies (and gives me the right to transfer) and one for &quot;Literary Works&quot; where 109 applies (and gives me the right to First Sale).&nbsp; Either way, I have the right to transfer the work.&nbsp; I don't see any other definition of a type of work that a PDF could belong to.&nbsp; It's not a phonorecording.&nbsp; It's not an audiovisual work.&nbsp; It's either a computer program or a &quot;literary work&quot; as defined by copyright law, as far as I can tell. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Secondarily, while you are correct that Adobe does automatically download stuff to an &quot;ebooks&quot; folder or somesuch, I believe that folder is always set up as a sub-folder of &quot;My Documents&quot; - and a clever user can point &quot;My Documents&quot; to a zip drive or a CD-RW... which will point the ebooks folder to that same zip drive or CD-RW. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Just trying to point out that some of the assumptions people make with DRM - that &quot;well, it's the copy that goes on your hard drive that's authorized&quot; - are flawed, because there's no guarantee that the copy I am authorized to download goes directly to a Hard Drive in the first instance... thus the conclusion, &quot;you'd have to sell all your e-books simultaneously&quot; is flawed.I can't assail the logical argument that &quot;making a copy from a file on your Hard Drive is probably an unauthorized copy&quot; itself.&nbsp; But I can cut off any argument at the knees if I point out that the premises from which the argument proceeds are flawed... e.g., the assumption that the &quot;authorized&quot; copy begins its life on a Hard Drive.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />--The Sigil</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Sigil, post: 1599262, member: 2013"] That's why I went through the trouble of tracing two routes... one route for "Computer Programs," where Section 117 applies (and gives me the right to transfer) and one for "Literary Works" where 109 applies (and gives me the right to First Sale). Either way, I have the right to transfer the work. I don't see any other definition of a type of work that a PDF could belong to. It's not a phonorecording. It's not an audiovisual work. It's either a computer program or a "literary work" as defined by copyright law, as far as I can tell. ;) Secondarily, while you are correct that Adobe does automatically download stuff to an "ebooks" folder or somesuch, I believe that folder is always set up as a sub-folder of "My Documents" - and a clever user can point "My Documents" to a zip drive or a CD-RW... which will point the ebooks folder to that same zip drive or CD-RW. ;) Just trying to point out that some of the assumptions people make with DRM - that "well, it's the copy that goes on your hard drive that's authorized" - are flawed, because there's no guarantee that the copy I am authorized to download goes directly to a Hard Drive in the first instance... thus the conclusion, "you'd have to sell all your e-books simultaneously" is flawed. I can't assail the logical argument that "making a copy from a file on your Hard Drive is probably an unauthorized copy" itself. But I can cut off any argument at the knees if I point out that the premises from which the argument proceeds are flawed... e.g., the assumption that the "authorized" copy begins its life on a Hard Drive. ;) --The Sigil [/QUOTE]

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