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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9859947" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>I don't really understand the poll and how exactly "meta" is being used (metaplot? Metagame? Meta-uhh? Metaverse?)</p><p></p><p>However I think that 3.5 had one of the better versions of counter spell because it used a simple spellcraft check welded to the opportunity cost of a readied action and a vancian prepped dispell magic vancian prepped matching spell or vancian prepped mirroring spell (ie light vrs darkness). All of that resulted in it being a rare and weighty strategy done when it would really make a huge difference</p><p></p><p>Counterspell is just obnoxious and has no real opportunity cost in both versions of 5e so it gets overused as a reflexive and forgettable afterthought. The result makes the counterspelling caster(s) come off looking petulant to the point that the spell may as well be called "<em>I know you are but what am I</em>" or some flavor of grade school "<em>yo momma</em>.."</p><p></p><p>It absolutely should not be an at will unlimited use cantrip. </p><p></p><p>Although requiring the casting player to verbally say or complete one of those childish jokes would probably improve the 5e counterspell by spotlighting it for what it is under neovancian prep and the current rest/recovery mechanics involved in recovering lost resources.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9859947, member: 93670"] I don't really understand the poll and how exactly "meta" is being used (metaplot? Metagame? Meta-uhh? Metaverse?) However I think that 3.5 had one of the better versions of counter spell because it used a simple spellcraft check welded to the opportunity cost of a readied action and a vancian prepped dispell magic vancian prepped matching spell or vancian prepped mirroring spell (ie light vrs darkness). All of that resulted in it being a rare and weighty strategy done when it would really make a huge difference Counterspell is just obnoxious and has no real opportunity cost in both versions of 5e so it gets overused as a reflexive and forgettable afterthought. The result makes the counterspelling caster(s) come off looking petulant to the point that the spell may as well be called "[I]I know you are but what am I[/I]" or some flavor of grade school "[I]yo momma[/I].." It absolutely should not be an at will unlimited use cantrip. Although requiring the casting player to verbally say or complete one of those childish jokes would probably improve the 5e counterspell by spotlighting it for what it is under neovancian prep and the current rest/recovery mechanics involved in recovering lost resources. [/QUOTE]
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