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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5735922" data-attributes="member: 92511">I have come to understand, since joining ENworld, that there are many terms we use, as a community amongst ourselves to describe verious people and elements of the game. Sometimes we're all on the same page. Sometimes we're all in the same ballpark or neighborhood of understanding. And sometimes what is understood by one party is taken totally different by another (usually with disagreement ensuing).Take, for example, the term "grognard" as recently brought up in the Were-Grognard thread. I have come to consider myself, to my understanding of the term, a grognard. This is because I do enjoy the "older" (pre-3e) versions of the D&D. One poster in that thread posted this: " grognards refuse to accept the strengths of other games and grudgingly  cling to the games they're invested in while coming up with new and  bizarre reasons why everything else sucks."I do not hold these beliefs. I don't think other editions of the game "suck". I simply do not enjoy the complexity/changes to the rules that I view as generally unnecessary to the fun of the game for me and my game. There are also the comments about the "fatbeards" and body smell and other elements that...I sincerely hope!...do not apply to me. Though, truth be told, I could stand to get in some exercise and do generally maintain a layer of "scruff" on my face...SO, the purpose of this thread...What are your definitions for the following terms, which, to me sometimes seem ambiguous in discussion?GrognardPowergamerMin-maxer (and how it is different than an optimizer or a powergamer?)OptimizerRules-lawyer (How often/much does one have to bring in the rules to be considered annoying or detrimental to the game...which it seems the term, as I understand it, connotes a "lawyer"?) "Old-skooler" (and is it different than a grognard?)"New-skooler" (considering that at 3 to 10+ years in, I would hardly consider either 3 or 4e "new" anymore)Build (The use of the term "build" instead of "creation" when generating characters has always struck me as a fundamental difference of perspective in, not just making one's character, but a presumption on how the game should be/expected to be played. i.e. the desire to "win" a fictional fantasy game of pretend. What makes a "character build" necessary or different from just "character creation"?)Gamer (does someone like me, who pretty much only plays D&D in the O-1-2e vein qualify as a "gamer" or am I just a "D&D Player" or "D&Der", if you will? Yes, in younger days I experimented and played a few others, but for the passed few decades, it's D&D or nothing for me.)And feel free to add in any other terms you've seen presented here or other forums that have (or can have) similarly ambiguous meaning.Have fun and happy gaming.And an early Happy Turkey day to all of my fellow American ENworlders (here in Andorra we're hosting a traditional American Thanksgiving on Saturday for all of our friends. Mostly ex-pats, I think we're up to seven different countries, but no other americans). But, regardless, happy Gobble Gobble to all.--Steel Dragons</blockquote>

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