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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 5735931" data-attributes="member: 2205"><p><strong>Grognard</strong> - a person who is stuck in a frame of mind that is past, and is grumpy about it. They tend to prefer older editions, and older playstyles, and have the "get off my lawn" attitude about it. The word comes from an old military term from Napolean's era, and has <em>always</em> had the grumpy, complainy semantic shade. While there've been many attempts by non-grogrnard old school fans to "reclaim" the word, they've mostly been somewhat tongue in cheek. Grognard without the grumpy, complainy side just wouldn't be grognard anymore.</p><p></p><p><strong>Powergamer</strong> - a person who values having the "best" stuff for an optimized character. While I don't see this as a bad thing in and of itself, I don't like playing with them very much.</p><p></p><p><strong>Min-maxer (and how it is different than an optimizer or a powergamer?) Optimizer</strong> - it's not. Min-maxer and powergamer are the same. <em>Maybe</em> you could make the case that to use the term min-maxer is a slightly less "friendly" approach, though--the term carries a subtle aura of oprobium, IMO. I've never really heard anyone use optimizer as a label, but I'd see it in the same light as powergamer.</p><p></p><p><strong>Rules-lawyer (How often/much does one have to bring in the rules to be considered annoying or detrimental to the game...which it seems the term, as I understand it, connotes a "lawyer"?)</strong> - person who tends to argue with or challenge the GM's ruling by appealing to the "rules". How often does someone have to do this to be annoying or detrimental? More than once. Occasionally, once is enough.</p><p></p><p><strong>"Old-skooler" (and is it different than a grognard?)</strong> - yes, very much so. An Old-skooler is a guy who likes games that play to an old school taste. They are frequently retro-clones, but they might be hybrids of more modern rules and more classic styles, like Castles & Crusades or something. There's no negative undertone to being an old-skooler like there is being a grognard.</p><p></p><p><strong>"New-skooler" (considering that at 3 to 10+ years in, I would hardly consider either 3 or 4e "new" anymore)</strong> - I don't think that's really a term that anyone uses.</p><p></p><p><strong>Build (The use of the term "build" instead of "creation" when generating characters has always struck me as a fundamental difference of perspective in, not just making one's character, but a presumption on how the game should be/expected to be played. i.e. the desire to "win" a fictional fantasy game of pretend. What makes a "character build" necessary or different from just "character creation"?)</strong> - good heavens. To build a character is to generate a character, although build seems to imply that there was a specific goal in mind as to what kind of character it is. I donm't think that there is any fundamental perspective difference implied by the use of the word build vs. generate, create, or any other word you could use to describe the act of making a character.</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer (does someone like me, who pretty much only plays D&D in the O-1-2e vein qualify as a "gamer" or am I just a "D&D Player" or "D&Der", if you will? Yes, in younger days I experimented and played a few others, but for the passed few decades, it's D&D or nothing for me.)</strong> - a gamer, to me, is a person who has as a hobby the playing of roleplaying games. I don't care which one(s). I've never heard of anyone trying to put a requirement around the label that you have to try a certain number of different games or anything like that. I do recognize, though, that my usage is somewhat narrow; to most of the world, a gamer is someone who plays computer or console games.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 5735931, member: 2205"] [b]Grognard[/b] - a person who is stuck in a frame of mind that is past, and is grumpy about it. They tend to prefer older editions, and older playstyles, and have the "get off my lawn" attitude about it. The word comes from an old military term from Napolean's era, and has [I]always[/I] had the grumpy, complainy semantic shade. While there've been many attempts by non-grogrnard old school fans to "reclaim" the word, they've mostly been somewhat tongue in cheek. Grognard without the grumpy, complainy side just wouldn't be grognard anymore. [b]Powergamer[/b] - a person who values having the "best" stuff for an optimized character. While I don't see this as a bad thing in and of itself, I don't like playing with them very much. [b]Min-maxer (and how it is different than an optimizer or a powergamer?) Optimizer[/b] - it's not. Min-maxer and powergamer are the same. [I]Maybe[/I] you could make the case that to use the term min-maxer is a slightly less "friendly" approach, though--the term carries a subtle aura of oprobium, IMO. I've never really heard anyone use optimizer as a label, but I'd see it in the same light as powergamer. [b]Rules-lawyer (How often/much does one have to bring in the rules to be considered annoying or detrimental to the game...which it seems the term, as I understand it, connotes a "lawyer"?)[/b] - person who tends to argue with or challenge the GM's ruling by appealing to the "rules". How often does someone have to do this to be annoying or detrimental? More than once. Occasionally, once is enough. [b]"Old-skooler" (and is it different than a grognard?)[/b] - yes, very much so. An Old-skooler is a guy who likes games that play to an old school taste. They are frequently retro-clones, but they might be hybrids of more modern rules and more classic styles, like Castles & Crusades or something. There's no negative undertone to being an old-skooler like there is being a grognard. [b]"New-skooler" (considering that at 3 to 10+ years in, I would hardly consider either 3 or 4e "new" anymore)[/b] - I don't think that's really a term that anyone uses. [b]Build (The use of the term "build" instead of "creation" when generating characters has always struck me as a fundamental difference of perspective in, not just making one's character, but a presumption on how the game should be/expected to be played. i.e. the desire to "win" a fictional fantasy game of pretend. What makes a "character build" necessary or different from just "character creation"?)[/b] - good heavens. To build a character is to generate a character, although build seems to imply that there was a specific goal in mind as to what kind of character it is. I donm't think that there is any fundamental perspective difference implied by the use of the word build vs. generate, create, or any other word you could use to describe the act of making a character. [b]Gamer (does someone like me, who pretty much only plays D&D in the O-1-2e vein qualify as a "gamer" or am I just a "D&D Player" or "D&Der", if you will? Yes, in younger days I experimented and played a few others, but for the passed few decades, it's D&D or nothing for me.)[/b] - a gamer, to me, is a person who has as a hobby the playing of roleplaying games. I don't care which one(s). I've never heard of anyone trying to put a requirement around the label that you have to try a certain number of different games or anything like that. I do recognize, though, that my usage is somewhat narrow; to most of the world, a gamer is someone who plays computer or console games. [/QUOTE]
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