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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6859578" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>With respect, you were speaking about an area you don't know much about, and your ignorance showed. That generally tells us that we need to take several steps back and start at basics. That'll seem patronizing, I suspect.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fair enough - I understand that position, as I've been there (physics, but at an American university). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, well, think about that judgement. It speaks to the University as a whole, but not to any particular graduate student. The individual students are judged by a much smaller group of individuals at the university. And sometimes, an interaction between a student and professor goes awry, now doesn't it? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes and no. Surely, you Brits are not immune to departmental politics?</p><p></p><p>When I was a graduate student, I was looking for a thesis project - and one professor suggested one. I looked into it for a semester, and once I had learned enough to make a judgement, it was pretty clear what he needed was a computer scientist, not a physicist. I informed him (as politely as I could) that the project didn't seem like it was for me, and found another one that was much more fitting to my interests and skills. It turned out that, no matter how polite I'd tried to be, I'd *horribly* offended this professor, and he was still on my thesis committee. It made several things much more difficult from that point on.</p><p></p><p>That's not an academic dynamic, or a business one. It is a human one. And it happens anywhere. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To some extent, I expect so, though I haven't spent enough time in Britain to really judge.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6859578, member: 177"] With respect, you were speaking about an area you don't know much about, and your ignorance showed. That generally tells us that we need to take several steps back and start at basics. That'll seem patronizing, I suspect. Fair enough - I understand that position, as I've been there (physics, but at an American university). Yes, well, think about that judgement. It speaks to the University as a whole, but not to any particular graduate student. The individual students are judged by a much smaller group of individuals at the university. And sometimes, an interaction between a student and professor goes awry, now doesn't it? Yes and no. Surely, you Brits are not immune to departmental politics? When I was a graduate student, I was looking for a thesis project - and one professor suggested one. I looked into it for a semester, and once I had learned enough to make a judgement, it was pretty clear what he needed was a computer scientist, not a physicist. I informed him (as politely as I could) that the project didn't seem like it was for me, and found another one that was much more fitting to my interests and skills. It turned out that, no matter how polite I'd tried to be, I'd *horribly* offended this professor, and he was still on my thesis committee. It made several things much more difficult from that point on. That's not an academic dynamic, or a business one. It is a human one. And it happens anywhere. To some extent, I expect so, though I haven't spent enough time in Britain to really judge. [/QUOTE]
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