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<blockquote data-quote="robconley" data-source="post: 8920250" data-attributes="member: 5636"><p>The cat is already out of the bag in that regard. ORC will be popular and widely used but it not going to be what the OGL was. I have seen this play out in the open source world enough times, starting in the 1990s. People can and will follow their own instinct and share content under a kaleidoscope of open licenses. The vast majority of these efforts will amount to a one-off.</p><p></p><p>My guess is that it will be mostly ORC, followed by various forms of CC-BY and CC-BY-SA, followed by folks testing Game mechanics can't be copyrighting, followed by continued use of the OGL, especially for communities that will have difficulty breaking away like Cepheus. But only if there is enough useful open content released for ORC. If there is an OGL-1.0b then there will less of push to move away but increasingly be relegated to supporting legacy work, assuming that ORC offers less restrictions. If ORC is a fixed up OGL then there will a small but significant naughty word to CC-BY of licenses due to the comparative lack of restrictions on remixing content other than those concerning attribution.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Until authorization is defined within the license, it remains vulnerable. And due to development in licenses and contracts since 2000, we need irrevocable added as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Interesting that you said that because that is what people told me when I wrote <a href="https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/2023/01/the-new-ogl-12-what-is-victory.html" target="_blank">The new OGL 1.2, What is Victory?</a> Sure I didn't see the apology from the CEOs, but the entire 5.1 SRD being under CC-BY works for me. And similar things were said to me back in December when I wrote <a href="https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/2022/12/the-proposed-ogl-11-is-not-open-license.html" target="_blank">The proposed OGL 1.1 is not an Open License. Fight for your hobby</a>. While I am just one of thousands and Wizards doesn't know me compared to larger youtube channels. I like my odds, even if it takes five years to achieve the goal.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nice theory. But I think I will let my <a href="https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">record across three</a> decades regarding open content and open source <a href="http://www.ibiblio.org/mscorbit/" target="_blank">speak for itself</a> when it comes to my motivations. As for the betterment of the hobby, </p><p></p><p><a href="https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/2023/01/a-network-of-one-three-little-words-and.html" target="_blank">A Network of One, Three Little Words, and an appreciated Victory</a>.</p><p><a href="https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/2018/11/blackmarsh-updated.html" target="_blank">Blackmarsh Updated</a></p><p><a href="https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/2022/06/perilleuses-contrees-fangenoire.html" target="_blank">Périlleuses contrées: Fangenoire (Blackmarsh in French)</a></p><p><a href="https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/p/stuff-in-attic.html" target="_blank">Stuff in the Attic</a></p><p>Less than some, but I think I accomplished a few things here and there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="robconley, post: 8920250, member: 5636"] The cat is already out of the bag in that regard. ORC will be popular and widely used but it not going to be what the OGL was. I have seen this play out in the open source world enough times, starting in the 1990s. People can and will follow their own instinct and share content under a kaleidoscope of open licenses. The vast majority of these efforts will amount to a one-off. My guess is that it will be mostly ORC, followed by various forms of CC-BY and CC-BY-SA, followed by folks testing Game mechanics can't be copyrighting, followed by continued use of the OGL, especially for communities that will have difficulty breaking away like Cepheus. But only if there is enough useful open content released for ORC. If there is an OGL-1.0b then there will less of push to move away but increasingly be relegated to supporting legacy work, assuming that ORC offers less restrictions. If ORC is a fixed up OGL then there will a small but significant naughty word to CC-BY of licenses due to the comparative lack of restrictions on remixing content other than those concerning attribution. Until authorization is defined within the license, it remains vulnerable. And due to development in licenses and contracts since 2000, we need irrevocable added as well. Interesting that you said that because that is what people told me when I wrote [URL='https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/2023/01/the-new-ogl-12-what-is-victory.html']The new OGL 1.2, What is Victory?[/URL] Sure I didn't see the apology from the CEOs, but the entire 5.1 SRD being under CC-BY works for me. And similar things were said to me back in December when I wrote [URL='https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/2022/12/the-proposed-ogl-11-is-not-open-license.html']The proposed OGL 1.1 is not an Open License. Fight for your hobby[/URL]. While I am just one of thousands and Wizards doesn't know me compared to larger youtube channels. I like my odds, even if it takes five years to achieve the goal. Nice theory. But I think I will let my [URL='https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/']record across three[/URL] decades regarding open content and open source [URL='http://www.ibiblio.org/mscorbit/']speak for itself[/URL] when it comes to my motivations. As for the betterment of the hobby, [URL='https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/2023/01/a-network-of-one-three-little-words-and.html']A Network of One, Three Little Words, and an appreciated Victory[/URL]. [URL='https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/2018/11/blackmarsh-updated.html']Blackmarsh Updated[/URL] [URL='https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/2022/06/perilleuses-contrees-fangenoire.html']Périlleuses contrées: Fangenoire (Blackmarsh in French)[/URL] [URL='https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/p/stuff-in-attic.html']Stuff in the Attic[/URL] Less than some, but I think I accomplished a few things here and there. [/QUOTE]
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