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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 2294617" data-attributes="member: 5171">Canis: Good points. I don't remember whether it was this thread or the general rate-the-movie thread, but I am not denying movie-rating results. I am disappointed in them, and I am specifically disappointed that people are saying what they are saying in their reviews and then still giving the movie 4.5 stars, because if they really believe the things they are saying, I personally don't think they should give them those reviews.Fett, that's also a good point. Perhaps I've gotten overly defensive. I have no intention of wandering into a thread titled "I loved Revenge of the Sith!" and raining on people's parades with my own disappointment, but in a thread whose stated purpose is to talk about a problem with the movie (this one, with the shoddy execution of Anakin's fall, after a nicely done lead-up), or in a general thread whose purpose is to get opinions from both sides (rate-the-movie), I'm getting feelings from people that suggest that the opinions of anyone who didn't like the movie are not welcome. As a result of getting that impression, I've gotten a bit more entrenched in my position than I initially was. If you want me to shut up about how I was largely disappointed by the movie, the best way to not get me to do that is to a) tell me that I'm wrong because I didn't understand the true depth of a poorly written popcorn flick, b) tell me that I'm elitist, or c) act like it's a sacred relic and it's too close to your heart, and that I'm personally insulting you by saying something bad about it, and you're just really not ready to hear any complaints about it yet.a) and b) are truly pernicious working in tandem, because you've got one group coming up with massively deep extrapolated explanations for why the plotholes you saw weren't actually plotholes, and if you counter with an appropriate level of criticism for that, you're informed that you're just being a literary snob, and that the average folks on the street don't care about such minutiae. c) is fine, but if you really feel that way, you shouldn't hang out in threads whose stated purpose is to talk about a flaw or get a full spectrum of opinions. You should stick to the fan-threads, much as I would stick to "I love Buffy!" threads or "Firefly is awesome!" threads and not hang out in "Why Firefly sucks" or "Wonderfalls: Totally lame", getting huffy about people insulting the religious experience that was my Firefly series marathon.Hence, me getting defensive. I'm not an idiot, I'm not an elitist, and I'm not trying to ruin anybody's happiest day evar, but I am going to post in threads related to full-spectrum discussion about the movie with my opinion. And either I've done a much better job at surrounding myself with geeks than the average Joe, or I've got a weird random sampling, because I haven't heard that the movie was the bestest thing ever as the average response from the people I know. The average response has been more positive than mine, but basically boiled down to "Fun action stuff, but Lucas really shouldn't try to write. There was a lot of stupid stuff in there, so at the end I was just watching for the fight scenes."</blockquote>

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