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<blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 2304226" data-attributes="member: 4275"><p>Ok, I keep seeing this and I think people are WAY over reacting to the "no attachment" thing.</p><p></p><p>Jedi don't strive to be feeling-less, cold and inhuman.</p><p></p><p>Qui-Gon tried to free Annakin's mother, "but Wato wouldn't have it". Remember that line? Everyone harps on the attachment line. </p><p></p><p>And remember Qui-Gon also stated that "nothing happens by chance". So his inability to free Shmi was an expression that her destiny lay along a different path from her son. And you know what, he was right. </p><p></p><p>She was freed, married and happy. Yes she eventually died, but as a result of something that was a hazard of living where she lived. Based on their various appearances in the films, the sandpeople are responsible for a lot of deaths on Tatooine.</p><p></p><p>So her slavery didn't kill her, yet Annakin still has a fit and acts like its the Jedi's fault that she died.</p><p></p><p>Ahhh, now we're getting to this attachment thing. Misplaced rage. Taking YOUR guilt over choosing the exciting life of a Jedi over being a slave's fix-it man and DISPLACING it on people who have helped you.</p><p></p><p>That's the sort of "attachment" I think Yoda warns against.</p><p></p><p>Its the bordering-on-obsession-need-a-restraining-order type of attachment.</p><p></p><p>You know, like lying to your closest friends about being in love. About having mixed feelings when she turns up pregnant and the secret will be revealed (did anyone else see that look on Annakin's face when she says she's pregnant? he didn't look HAPPY to me). </p><p></p><p>For me THAT moment was when Annakin started looking for a way out. He already felt he should be in charge. Why wasn't he already on the council? Oh yeah, they were "jealous".</p><p></p><p>And if they had LET him on the council, how long before he wanted to know why Yoda and Mace were in charge and not him? </p><p></p><p>And Palpatine knew exactly how Annakin thought. How he wanted to be "special". Special in the sense that the rules didn't apply to him. That was why he appointed him to the council, to fuel his ambition.</p><p></p><p>Oh and when the woman Annakin "loved so much" wasn't willing to go along with him and thought about leaving, he force-choked her. He was the stalker-abusive type of mate we see so often in the real world. They are kind and loving some of the time too.</p><p></p><p>THAT is attachment.</p><p></p><p>Chuck</p><p></p><p>PS For those "Annakin fell too fast" folks. Sheesh, its a movie. Othello went from devoted husband to wife-murderer in 2 hours too. Mostly cause audiences don't prefer to watch events happen in real time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vigilance, post: 2304226, member: 4275"] Ok, I keep seeing this and I think people are WAY over reacting to the "no attachment" thing. Jedi don't strive to be feeling-less, cold and inhuman. Qui-Gon tried to free Annakin's mother, "but Wato wouldn't have it". Remember that line? Everyone harps on the attachment line. And remember Qui-Gon also stated that "nothing happens by chance". So his inability to free Shmi was an expression that her destiny lay along a different path from her son. And you know what, he was right. She was freed, married and happy. Yes she eventually died, but as a result of something that was a hazard of living where she lived. Based on their various appearances in the films, the sandpeople are responsible for a lot of deaths on Tatooine. So her slavery didn't kill her, yet Annakin still has a fit and acts like its the Jedi's fault that she died. Ahhh, now we're getting to this attachment thing. Misplaced rage. Taking YOUR guilt over choosing the exciting life of a Jedi over being a slave's fix-it man and DISPLACING it on people who have helped you. That's the sort of "attachment" I think Yoda warns against. Its the bordering-on-obsession-need-a-restraining-order type of attachment. You know, like lying to your closest friends about being in love. About having mixed feelings when she turns up pregnant and the secret will be revealed (did anyone else see that look on Annakin's face when she says she's pregnant? he didn't look HAPPY to me). For me THAT moment was when Annakin started looking for a way out. He already felt he should be in charge. Why wasn't he already on the council? Oh yeah, they were "jealous". And if they had LET him on the council, how long before he wanted to know why Yoda and Mace were in charge and not him? And Palpatine knew exactly how Annakin thought. How he wanted to be "special". Special in the sense that the rules didn't apply to him. That was why he appointed him to the council, to fuel his ambition. Oh and when the woman Annakin "loved so much" wasn't willing to go along with him and thought about leaving, he force-choked her. He was the stalker-abusive type of mate we see so often in the real world. They are kind and loving some of the time too. THAT is attachment. Chuck PS For those "Annakin fell too fast" folks. Sheesh, its a movie. Othello went from devoted husband to wife-murderer in 2 hours too. Mostly cause audiences don't prefer to watch events happen in real time. [/QUOTE]
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