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<blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 2304661" data-attributes="member: 4275"><p>I didn't say I thought it was ok Annakin and Padme were married did I? What I said was that I keep seeing Yoda's "avoid attachment" speech as an implication that Yoda thought the Jedi ideal was to be a cold-hearted bastard.</p><p></p><p>Jedi were supposed to put the order first as long as they WERE Jedi.</p><p></p><p>But as illustrated by Count Dooko, Jedi are allowed to leave without predjudice. It isnt the Mafia. Not only had Dooko left to pursue his other affairs in the eyes of the council, Mace still has a very high regard for him (until it was revealed he was a Sith natch).</p><p></p><p>So if Annakin wanted to take care of mom, get married, settle down and have a family with Padme all he had to do (as near as I can tell) is give his two weeks' notice and stop going on the cool Jedi missions and stop being trained in his kewl powers.</p><p></p><p>In other words, it was HIS choice, and "avoid attachment" doesn't mean that the Jedi think all human compassion is evil. It means that as an adult Annakin has to make a choice. Is he going to be part of a smaller world, taking care of family and friends and lovers, or is he going to put his concerns aside for the greater good?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree with this.</p><p></p><p>I have thought since the first film that the "balance" Annakin brings to the Force is a sweeping away of a Jedi order that become way too rules-bound. It was unnatural which is alien to the Force.</p><p></p><p>Look at Episodes I-III and we see Jedi living high in a temple that basically worships them. Taking children from their parents at birth and denying them any further contact with their parents. Refusing candidates based on solely artificial reasons ("he's too old").</p><p></p><p>Well, if you get them at birth, I guess its easier to indoctrinate them huh?</p><p></p><p>In IV-VI what we see is much more organic. Instead of living in a glittering temple Yoda lives in a simple hut and the students seek him out when they have already had a chance to LIVE somewhat. Instead of being sucked in and indoctrinated from birth, Luke *chose* to be a Jedi.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vigilance, post: 2304661, member: 4275"] I didn't say I thought it was ok Annakin and Padme were married did I? What I said was that I keep seeing Yoda's "avoid attachment" speech as an implication that Yoda thought the Jedi ideal was to be a cold-hearted bastard. Jedi were supposed to put the order first as long as they WERE Jedi. But as illustrated by Count Dooko, Jedi are allowed to leave without predjudice. It isnt the Mafia. Not only had Dooko left to pursue his other affairs in the eyes of the council, Mace still has a very high regard for him (until it was revealed he was a Sith natch). So if Annakin wanted to take care of mom, get married, settle down and have a family with Padme all he had to do (as near as I can tell) is give his two weeks' notice and stop going on the cool Jedi missions and stop being trained in his kewl powers. In other words, it was HIS choice, and "avoid attachment" doesn't mean that the Jedi think all human compassion is evil. It means that as an adult Annakin has to make a choice. Is he going to be part of a smaller world, taking care of family and friends and lovers, or is he going to put his concerns aside for the greater good? I agree with this. I have thought since the first film that the "balance" Annakin brings to the Force is a sweeping away of a Jedi order that become way too rules-bound. It was unnatural which is alien to the Force. Look at Episodes I-III and we see Jedi living high in a temple that basically worships them. Taking children from their parents at birth and denying them any further contact with their parents. Refusing candidates based on solely artificial reasons ("he's too old"). Well, if you get them at birth, I guess its easier to indoctrinate them huh? In IV-VI what we see is much more organic. Instead of living in a glittering temple Yoda lives in a simple hut and the students seek him out when they have already had a chance to LIVE somewhat. Instead of being sucked in and indoctrinated from birth, Luke *chose* to be a Jedi. [/QUOTE]
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