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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 2313368" data-attributes="member: 4720"><p>We know that Jedi (even half-trained ones like Luke in ESB, can sometimes see the future. And Anakin has long been told how powerful he is. Of course he's going to think that his visions are meaningful. He doesn't know the circumstances leading up to the birth, only that she's going to die during it. With little specific to go on, he clamped onto a general "save her from death" idea. Makes some sense to me. And if he had found a way to do it that didn't involve betraying the Jedi, I imagine he would have taken it. His tendency towards possessiveness and selfishness would have come to the fore some other way, eventually, I imagine, as I do agree with you that he is selfish. Even monstrously so at times. But then, I think that was part of the point. To that point...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep. He's a child prodigy alright. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Though I might disagree with weak-willed.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll agree with that, at least insofar as what we've been shown. I think Lucas really needed to spend more time on the Clone Wars. We should see Anakin as a hero, a flawed one, an impetuous one, but someone who always has to do his best to SAVE people. The novelization makes a point of this at the very beginning when Anakin wants to help out the clone fighter pilots and Obi-wan tells him to stick to their job, and again when he refuses to abandon Obi-wan twice. To really sell the whole thing as his Fall and Redemption, we needed to see more of his positive qualities, but then we probably would have needed another 3 or 4 hours of movie. Personally, I wish he had originally numbered A New Hope as 5 or 6. Would have given him the time to really develop Anakin in the prequels. (Plus it would have provided another movie or two <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )</p><p></p><p>But back to Anakin... He's actually fairly dogmatic, even in the movie, taking Obi-wan and the council to task for infractions of the Jedi code. Dogmatic in the way that only someone who really <em>wants</em> to break the rules can be when other people break them. For me, that really helped me buy his turning on the Jedi. They come off as hypocrites to him. They won't let him break the rules, but they get to if they "want to." He does not yet have the wisdom to know that rules are only the beginning of wisdom (arguably few of the Jedi really do, either, but that ground has been covered).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost, post: 2313368, member: 4720"] We know that Jedi (even half-trained ones like Luke in ESB, can sometimes see the future. And Anakin has long been told how powerful he is. Of course he's going to think that his visions are meaningful. He doesn't know the circumstances leading up to the birth, only that she's going to die during it. With little specific to go on, he clamped onto a general "save her from death" idea. Makes some sense to me. And if he had found a way to do it that didn't involve betraying the Jedi, I imagine he would have taken it. His tendency towards possessiveness and selfishness would have come to the fore some other way, eventually, I imagine, as I do agree with you that he is selfish. Even monstrously so at times. But then, I think that was part of the point. To that point... Yep. He's a child prodigy alright. ;) Though I might disagree with weak-willed. I'll agree with that, at least insofar as what we've been shown. I think Lucas really needed to spend more time on the Clone Wars. We should see Anakin as a hero, a flawed one, an impetuous one, but someone who always has to do his best to SAVE people. The novelization makes a point of this at the very beginning when Anakin wants to help out the clone fighter pilots and Obi-wan tells him to stick to their job, and again when he refuses to abandon Obi-wan twice. To really sell the whole thing as his Fall and Redemption, we needed to see more of his positive qualities, but then we probably would have needed another 3 or 4 hours of movie. Personally, I wish he had originally numbered A New Hope as 5 or 6. Would have given him the time to really develop Anakin in the prequels. (Plus it would have provided another movie or two :) ) But back to Anakin... He's actually fairly dogmatic, even in the movie, taking Obi-wan and the council to task for infractions of the Jedi code. Dogmatic in the way that only someone who really [i]wants[/i] to break the rules can be when other people break them. For me, that really helped me buy his turning on the Jedi. They come off as hypocrites to him. They won't let him break the rules, but they get to if they "want to." He does not yet have the wisdom to know that rules are only the beginning of wisdom (arguably few of the Jedi really do, either, but that ground has been covered). [/QUOTE]
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