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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 2316287" data-attributes="member: 4720"><p>Exactly. Ultimately, I suspect the problem comes in because Lucas has a piccture of Anakin that includes all these positive characteristics, but he doesn't feel compelled to show them, because it's more important in his mind to set up the fall. And it's more or less a given that people don't argue with him too much. I can't say that he's surrounded himself with yes-men, not actually knowing anything about the dynamics of Lucasfilm, but I wouldn't be surprised. I really think someone needed to sit down with him and say, "George, why are people supposed to LIKE this character?" back when they were writing AotC, and again in tRoS.</p><p></p><p>Of course, a lot of the fans didn't <em>want</em> to like him. They wanted him to be bad-ass Vader-boy from the get-go. And perhaps a lot of Lucas' staff felt that way too. To my mind, that robs the story of any power and makes it especially nonsensical that anyone would train the kid. But who the heck am I, anyway?</p><p></p><p></p><p>People don't tend to notice their own hypocrasy unless forced to. Also, I agree with you that there was no vindictiveness in the moment where he chose to save Sidious. That was driven primarily by his concerns over Padme. However, his lack of trust in the Jedi helped get him to that place. And that lack of trust stems partially from his own guilt over Dooku. He killed Dooku in cold blood. An act that was wrong, and also against the Jedi code. He feels guilt and remorse over this, knowing he has failed to meet standards. However, immediately afterwards, the people who set those standards fail to meet them by asking him to spy and so on. It's a "I've been beating myself up about that thing with Dooku, and now they turn around and do this!" moment. It's self-centered, certainly, but that's within Anakin's MO. It's also short-sighted, failing to see where the rules become a hindrance to the greater good rather than a service to it, but Anakin hasn't acquired that understanding, at least partly through the Jedi Order's failures.</p><p></p><p>Heck, you could read the whole saga as an indictment of organized religion, if you wanted, but that goes far beyond the scope of a space opera styled after old serials. Not that we aren't there already. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost, post: 2316287, member: 4720"] Exactly. Ultimately, I suspect the problem comes in because Lucas has a piccture of Anakin that includes all these positive characteristics, but he doesn't feel compelled to show them, because it's more important in his mind to set up the fall. And it's more or less a given that people don't argue with him too much. I can't say that he's surrounded himself with yes-men, not actually knowing anything about the dynamics of Lucasfilm, but I wouldn't be surprised. I really think someone needed to sit down with him and say, "George, why are people supposed to LIKE this character?" back when they were writing AotC, and again in tRoS. Of course, a lot of the fans didn't [i]want[/i] to like him. They wanted him to be bad-ass Vader-boy from the get-go. And perhaps a lot of Lucas' staff felt that way too. To my mind, that robs the story of any power and makes it especially nonsensical that anyone would train the kid. But who the heck am I, anyway? People don't tend to notice their own hypocrasy unless forced to. Also, I agree with you that there was no vindictiveness in the moment where he chose to save Sidious. That was driven primarily by his concerns over Padme. However, his lack of trust in the Jedi helped get him to that place. And that lack of trust stems partially from his own guilt over Dooku. He killed Dooku in cold blood. An act that was wrong, and also against the Jedi code. He feels guilt and remorse over this, knowing he has failed to meet standards. However, immediately afterwards, the people who set those standards fail to meet them by asking him to spy and so on. It's a "I've been beating myself up about that thing with Dooku, and now they turn around and do this!" moment. It's self-centered, certainly, but that's within Anakin's MO. It's also short-sighted, failing to see where the rules become a hindrance to the greater good rather than a service to it, but Anakin hasn't acquired that understanding, at least partly through the Jedi Order's failures. Heck, you could read the whole saga as an indictment of organized religion, if you wanted, but that goes far beyond the scope of a space opera styled after old serials. Not that we aren't there already. ;) [/QUOTE]
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